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Rocky Isn't Thrilled By LDS 'Huge Mall' Plan
Mall Tab Could Hit $1 Billion
Church of LDS Set to Kick Off $1.5B Salt Lake City Redevelopment
LDS Official To Update Salt Lake On Downtown - Bishop Burton To Talk Tuesday About Redevelopment Project
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Mall Becomes A Ghost Town
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Mormons Pay Millions For Condos Overlooking Salt Lake Temple
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The Mormon Church's $3 billion dollar shopping mall.
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Monday, Apr 4, 2005, at 07:50 AM
Rocky Isn't Thrilled By LDS 'Huge Mall' Plan
Original Author(s): Anonymous
CITY CREEK CENTER   -Guid-
Like the LDS Church really cares what you think Rocky. Sorry to say but the LDS Church will do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. The LDS Church wants to place the focus of Utah and Salt Lake City on it'self. Why? So it can try to sucker more people into joining and thus increasing their cash flow.

From the Mormon Owned Deseret News:

Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson has reservations about the redevelopment of downtown Salt Lake City.

Thursday, he questioned some of the plans of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and called for a more open public discussion of the church's $500 million downtown redevelopment project.

While he likes the housing and mixed-use aspects of the project, the mayor said it may have been a mistake for the church to partner with Michigan-based mall developer Taubman Co.

Instead, the church should consult urban and downtown planners and work to create a more walkable, traditional downtown setting with smaller, cut-up blocks and less enclosed retail, he said.

"Everybody ought to be talking to urban design and downtown redesign specialists and talking about what our downtown should be," Anderson said "The city as a whole has a huge stake in this."

Thursday, LDS Church spokesman Dale Bills said the church and its development team wouldn't comment on the mayor's concerns.

Anderson doesn't like current plans to create a new massive enclosed mall on much of the space that currently houses two massive enclosed malls — the ZCMI Center and Crossroads Plaza.

"Our downtown should not be comprised of a huge mall," Anderson said, adding, "I've never liked the idea of relying upon enclosed malls for this project. . . . I'm concerned about an enclosed mall suddenly becoming the main focus of our downtown."

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Friday, Jun 3, 2005, at 10:07 AM
Mall Tab Could Hit $1 Billion
Original Author(s): Anonymous
CITY CREEK CENTER   -Guid-
Looks like the LDS Church is going to have to increase their tithing requirements:

The LDS Church will invest close to $1 billion when it remakes downtown Salt Lake City's two malls - which will be closed on Sundays - according to Salt Lake City Council members.

The price tag is double initial estimates. And whatever the church is doing with all that money, the preliminary design has impressed mall critic Mayor Rocky Anderson.

The mayor met with LDS Presiding Bishop H. David Burton, who is in charge of the mall makeovers, at Burton's office Thursday. And while Anderson has criticized the church for its secrecy, he refused to discuss what he learned, saying the meeting was confidential.

However, he did release a statement saying "many of the concerns previously raised have been met by innovative design solutions. This will be a unique, exciting project bringing hundreds of new residents to the downtown area and attracting millions of people to beautiful retail, residential and office facilities."

While the church is still publicly mum about its mixed-used design - though it presented preliminary concepts recently to City Council members and business leaders - it plans to seek more public comment than the city requires as soon as this summer.

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Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005, at 07:15 AM
Church of LDS Set to Kick Off $1.5B Salt Lake City Redevelopment
Original Author(s): Anonymous
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Downtown Salt Lake City is on the verge of getting a 5-year, $1.5 billion redevelopment project, CPN has learned.

Representing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Property Reserve Inc. aims to redevelop 20 acres of Downtown Salt Lake City, focusing on more than 1 million square feet of retail, as well as housing and office. The real estate investment arm of the church, Property Reserve will work in conjunction with The Taubman Group. When finalized, the project is expected to be the largest investment in the Salt Lake region since the 2002 Winter Olympics.

"Over the next two to four years, Downtown, is looking at massive redevelopment," said Paul Skene, first vice president of CB Richard Ellis Inc.'s Salt Lake City office. "An official announcement is expected within the next 30 days."

While the significant office space existing within the 20 acres is expected to remain mostly untouched, Skene said that Property Reserve has plans to eliminate or refurbish KeyBank Tower, a 300,000-square-foot office building. Either plan will leave tenants--which occupy approximately 250,000 square feet there--to find new space in the area.

http://www.cpnonline.com/cpn/article_...
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Monday, Apr 10, 2006, at 07:31 AM
LDS Official To Update Salt Lake On Downtown - Bishop Burton To Talk Tuesday About Redevelopment Project
Original Author(s): Kersten Swinyard
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From the Mormon owned Deseret News:
Where there used to be an American Eagle Outfitters, a Speedo store, Mervyn's, Victoria's Secret and a nail salon in Crossroads Plaza, dark storefronts and white-paneled walls sit amid cheery signs promising change.

Crossroads Plaza remains mostly vacant except for Nordstrom and a handful of stores on the first floor.

The change, though, hasn't come yet, after years of whispers and rumors about how The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will handle the massive redevelopment of its downtown malls and surrounding properties.

Much of the complexity comes from having to move tenants from long-held leases. One holdout is Utah Woolen Mills, which has 63 years left on a 90-year lease. Company president Bart Stringham doesn't want to give up the store's private parking and prime storefront facing Temple Square, which draws about 5 million people a year.

"We're dealing with the church, and they have a lot of power, a lot of say, a lot of money," Stringham said. "The holdup is that maybe we've been expected to just roll over and play dead and do what they will."
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249...
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Monday, May 1, 2006, at 06:51 AM
Salt Lake Mall Is Well-Stocked With Empty
Original Author(s): Lee Benson
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From the Mormon owned Deseret News:
It's not every metropolitan downtown that features its very own ghost town, but Salt Lake City does. It's called the Crossroads Plaza, a k a the Ghost Mall.

Admission is free and directions are simple. Just walk 2 1/2 blocks due east of the bustling, thriving Gateway development and enter through the doors with the '80s style "CP" stenciled on the glass.

Just like that you're into Salt Lake's very own mall-turned-mausoleum.

What was once a bustling, thriving shopping mecca with 140 stores and restaurants and people fighting over parking places now has exactly 15 places still in business, and 10 of those are in the basement.

On the main level, there's one bank, one department store, one bookstore and two dress shops, both of which are, as we speak, holding 50 percent going-out-of-business sales.

Beyond that, there's so much empty space it reminds you of Wyoming. Downtown Ophir is busier. They could hold a Formula One race in the Crossroads Plaza and no one would get hurt.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249...
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Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006, at 07:12 AM
Mall Becomes A Ghost Town
Original Author(s): Heather May Salt Lake Tribune
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From the Salt Lake Tribune:
As you enter Crossroads Plaza, a sign suggests you leave.

Not a great first impression. But anymore, this Salt Lake City shopping center isn't out to dazzle. More mausoleum than mall, just three stores remain open where 160 once thrived.

Oddly, this is a sign of progress: The windows at the closed Mervyn's are papered in black. The escalator at the entrance is walled off. The shuttered fourth floor is home to garbage pails that catch water from the leaking roof. The food court is starved of eateries.

Plants outnumber shoppers.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints owns the ghost town, along with the comparatively bustling ZCMI Center across Main Street. The church, with its headquarters to the north, bought a struggling Crossroads in 2003 to protect its nearby Temple Square from blight.

The LDS Church declined to respond to specific questions about its plans, instead saying tenant negotiations are ongoing.
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4378428
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Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008, at 08:09 AM
The City Center Project
Original Author(s): The Mighty Builder
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OK, let’s get this out in the open. We are a construction consulting, inspection and testing firm that deals with theses types of projects.

First let’s get the cost speculation resolved.

Currently the end cost is 10 billion dollars. This is their budget not a speculation. For reference let’s use the Conference Center. When we first started it, the budget was announced at 350 million dollars (the amount stated on the building permit application). Then with the design build and accelerated construction demanded by the Mormon church costs rose. The end cost was 1.2 billion dollars (if you take a tour now and ask one of the guides they will proudly admit this fact). The Conference Center is only one city block and consists of five stories with underground parking. The City Creek Center is going to be two and a half blocks with multiple buildings, underground parking, etc. One building alone is the 32 story condominium project which is going to cost between 750 million and 1 billion. The sad part is that even with 16 condominiums on each floor and selling them for a million dollars each, the Mormon church will only recover 480 million. The actual cost of this design build, accelerated constructionwill most likely come in at 15 billion dollars. Every day of delay increases the costs.

Second is the Mormon church hurting financially because of this project – YES!

In our meetings we are continually being asked how to reduce costs. For example, the buildings were to be constructed using French Marble (38 per square foot) then Chinese Granite (28 per square foot) and now a brick façade (8 – 10 per square foot). The main cause is attributed to TBM’s becoming upset and either reducing there tithing by using their net as the basis of 10%, or counting travel time to assignments (temple, canning, etc.), gas costs, Deseret Industries donation, etc. as payment in kind donations. And while it is true that the funds used to build the City Creek Center are not tithing, these other funds are now needed to make up the short fall caused by the reduction.

Another factor is the economy. The Mormon church conducts its financial transactions in US dollars. The US dollar has fallen in the world monetary markets. THIS IS HURTING THEM.
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Monday, Apr 20, 2009, at 07:53 AM
Mormons Pay Millions For Condos Overlooking Salt Lake Temple
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
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Mormon Church leaders just told members in conference to live frugal lives. (http://www.sltrib.com/ci_12072579)

Now the church has set the price on their City Creek Development condos overlooking the Salt Lake Temple. Prices for a two-bedroom loft start above $2 million:

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_12151266

From the article:

Kirkham notes the LDS Church's ties to Salt Lake City -- with its campus of sacred edifices and headquarter offices nearby -- allow it to market City Creek housing to people outside of Utah.

"Some of those people will absolutely pay whatever they have to pay to be down there," said Kirkham, calling those downtown temple views compelling draws. Prices at the Richards Court towers across from Temple Square start at $442,000 for a studio, then spiral to $1 million for a one-bedroom loft and more than $2 million for a two-bedroom with a den.

Described as the portal between Temple Square and the City Creek commercial center, the 10-story Richards Court towers going up at 45 and 55 W. South Temple "define" urban living. Besides the floor-to-ceiling glass that ushers the temple spires or mountain peaks into living rooms, the units offer private balconies or "juliettes," along with a parklike terrace. All are equipped with bathroom marble, granite countertops, stainless-steel appliances, hardwood flooring, designer lighting and underground parking.

The LDS Church also plans a 30-story residential tower -- on the corner of South Temple and West Temple -- that will be marketed this summer. It is part of the church's overall $1.5 billion-plus rebuild of downtown's north end, expected to be complete in 2012.

Yet even in the down economy, as residential-retail projects sputter and stall, interest in City Creek condos continues to spike, according to Bill Knowles, ombudsman to the Salt Lake Chamber's Downtown Rising effort. "I know a substantial number of them have been sold."

"They have a bigger pool of buyers than a normal project," he said. "I'm not that surprised. It's like a lifestyle.

So what would Jesus do?
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Wednesday, Nov 25, 2009, at 09:31 AM
It's Official! LD$, Inc. Is Building A Multi-Million-Dollar Hotel In Hawaii
Original Author(s): Bean Counter
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Despite the worst recession in the United States since the Great Depression, Pres. Obama's recent warning that the US economy could slip back into recession, a double-digit decline in tourism in Hawaii, the Obama Admin.'s plan to add $8 trillion to the current national debt of $12 trillion (raising the national debt load by 2020 to 150% of Gross Domestic Product from its current level of 80%), and the extra $2.5 billion that the 'one, true' church, LD$, Inc., is spending on its Great & Spacious Mall-and-Condos project in SLC (the cost estimate in 2003 was 'just' $500M), Mormon 'profits' have authorized construction of the church's new, multi-million-dollar hotel in Hawaii.

"The 45-year-old Laie Inn, adjacent to BYU-Hawaii and the Polynesian Cultural Center, closed for business Nov. 1 and will be demolished to make room for a new development."

"Groundbreaking for the new, modestly sized hotel is expected by the end of 2010." (ref. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/70...)

Given the backlash from church members about the Great & Spacious Mall-and-Condos project (i.e., plenty of Latter-day Saints stopping payment of tithing after discovering that the church was spending billions of dollars on the project), it's not surprising that there is no mention of hotel size or cost in the Des. News report. However, non-LDS news sources have reported on both aspects of the hotel project. From Dec./07:

"Officials from Marriott International Inc. say the company is close to signing an agreement to operate a new 220-room hotel planned for La'ie.

The new hotel, which is expected to be completed sometime in 2010, would replace the 48-room Lai'e Inn, which is controlled by Hawaii Reserves Inc., the land management arm of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

"Beaver [Eric Beaver, Hawaii Reserves Inc.'s president] said the original $30 million cost estimate given when the hotel plan was first proposed in 2004 is outdated. He said he could not provide an updated cost." (ref. http://www.eturbonews.com/255/hawaii-...)

Given what's happened to the cost of the church's Great & Spacious Mall-and-Condos project in six years (a 500-percent increase), would it be unreasonable to expect that the new, 220-room hotel in Hawaii will end up costing more than $200 million? I don't think so.

Apparently, President & CEO Jesus Christ of LD$, Inc. again wants to spend several million dollars on yet another commercial real estate venture in the debt-ridden USA than do something Christian (in the United States or elsewhere in the world), like feed a portion of the 1 billion people worldwide who are malnourished (ref. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/...) or save 16,400-plus children from starving to death each day (ref. http://wvgazette.com/Opinion/Editoria...).

According to the Des. News report linked above, "...members of the First Presidency have not stayed at the Laie Inn in the last 10 or 15 years because of the condition of the inn." Oh dear! How troubling! People can starve to death and Latter-day Saints can struggle to make ends meet, but at least 1st Prez. members and other LDS General Authorities will soon have a nice, new hotel to stay at in Hawaii, with all the comforts and amenities needed to do the work of the Lord's religious-corporate Kingdom on Earth, LD$, Inc.
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Saturday, Jun 26, 2010, at 09:48 AM
LDS Nepotism In Construction Of The City Creek Center: Another Piece Of Ripe Fruit
Original Author(s): atheist&happy:-)
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from the nepotism family tree.

I have lived in downtown SLC for 20 years, and witnessed the construction of the behemoth Conference Center, Hotel Utah conversion, Main Street Plaza, tabernacle renovation, church history library, now City Creek, and many more. One company whose name I have seen at every single large LD$ construction site is Jacobsen Construction.

I will not be posting links, but if you go to their web site the first photograph is part of the new City Creek construction.

If you click on Portfolio, and then Religious, you can see some of what they have built, and renovated for TSCC, but that is not all:

LD$ Church Administration Building Seismic Upgrade

LD$ Church History Library

LD$ Conference Center

LD$ Meetinghouses..........

Rexburg Idaho LD$ Temple

Salt Lake Tabernacle Seismic Upgrade & Renovation

under Historic Renovation:

Salt Lake City, Utah, LD$ Temple Exterior Restoration

Logan Temple Exterior Restoration

Commercial/Office:

new Zions Bank Tower exterior

and, Civic/Institutional:

Main Street Plaza & Parking

Many more of their projects are essentially LD$, like ones on BYU campus, and the Deseret News Building. Other projects were likely gained through LD$ ties as well. I have not looked at commercial buildings on LD$ owned property, since they do own a lot of land, especially downtown. Also, with all this wealth, and steady work from TSCC, they have had the opportunity to gain more experience than competitors, gain an advantage, and obtain work through merit, because of that advantage.

Some older projects from Ted Jacobsen’s obituary:

LD$ Church Parking Garage, ZCMI Parking Structure, Hotel Utah expansion, Los Angeles temple, Washington D.C. temple, Oakland temple, “to name just a few”...

Note: They do these incredibly huge projects, and give back with patio pavers, pouring a sidewalk at a school for the blind, and food drives.

In family history it is common to descend from royalty through women, because the men would inherit the titles, and of course if we were descended from them we would be aristocracy. Daughters would be married off to wealthy merchants, clergymen, etc.

This is the situation with Soren Jacobsen. He made a name for himself, founding his company in 1922 after a few decades of hard work, and his son Ted married into “royalty”. Even though his father founded the company, Ted Jacobsen was present for much of the growth from the early depression era until 1978 when he retired, and his marriage in 1935 to Florence Smith strengthened business ties with TSCC. This is the little I have found so far:

Theodore Christian Jacobsen married Florence Smith:

1 Florence Smith, daughter of 2&3

2 Willard Richards Smith, son of 4&5

3 Florence Grant, daughter of 6&7

4 Joseph Fielding Smith

5 Sarah Ellen Richards

6 Heber J. Grant

7 Lucy Stringham (***this is the same Lucy Stringham who is the sister of two of the three Beneficial Life founders)

So Ted Jacobsen’s wife Florence Smith is the granddaughter of two church presidents.

Florence Smith Jacobsen was:

1961-1972 - 6th President of the Young Women’s Mutual Improvement Association, and restored the Beehive House, and Lion House. Also, around this time she assisted with the restoration of the Brigham Young, and Wilford Woodruff homes in Nauvoo.

1973 - She was asked to be curator of the Museum of Church History & Art, where she oversaw the restoration of church buildings.

from Wikipedia:

“As a church curator, Jacobsen supervised the restoration of many church buildings, including the Promised Valley Playhouse in Salt Lake City; the E. B. Grandin building in Palmyra, New York; the Brigham Young home in St. George, Utah; the Jacob Hamblin home in Santa Clara, Utah; the Newell K. Whitney store in Kirtland, Ohio; and the interior of the Manti Utah Temple.”

Whether they donated services, and TSCC mooched off of them, or whether they were paid well, or both, it does not matter to me, because they have been “rewarded” many times over since then with contracts to build large projects for TSCC.

Florence S. Jacobsen is still alive. Once again we see the feigned humility of TSCC in remarks by TSM at a dinner in her honor this May:

"When the Lion House was being renovated, the Florence you see tonight, the beautiful woman we see, was scrubbing the floors. And that part of her, in all this time, I think has not been understood."

What does that even mean? So, she is “just plain folk”? These are wealthy, privileged people. How many of us know, or are the people, who have been faithful members, have given their lives in sacrifice to TSCC, and when in need of a little help were refused or treated badly? She is the daughter of two church presidents, and her descendants are very secure.

Jacobsen Construction revenues from:

2006 - 405M

2005 - 359.9M

http://intermountain.construction.com...

"Seven Utah-Based Commercial Contractors Make ENR's Top 400 Contractor's List" 06/10/2010, By Ken Holman, Overland Group, Inc.

“The cumulative revenues of the seven Utah contractors fell dramatically from $3.75 billion (a record high) in 2008 to $3.11 billion in 2009, a 21 percent decrease during the one-year period.

Okland, Jacobsen and Big-D are the primary contractors on the downtown Salt Lake City Creek development project, a $1.5 billion project developed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”

http://www.realestatenewsutah.com/new...

Okland seems to have no nepotism ties, just LD$ ties, but I have not looked much. Big-D seems to have “gentile” beginnings, and I do not know yet if some of their leadership is LD$.

Since 2006 Jacobsen Construction has been employee owned, and I do not know enough about various ownership plans to discuss that. I can post what I have found if anyone wants to address the subject with knowledge, and not speculation.

So far I have seen a lot of large business ventures surrounding the Heber J. Grant family. It would be interesting to examine to what extent certain families have become wealthy from the processes described in Frank J. Cannon’s book from 1911:

"I am here repeating this argument—this exposition—because the financial absolutism of the Prophets of the Church has since ruined the whole Mormon experiment in communism, put the Mormon paupers into the public poor houses, used the tithes to support the large financial ventures of the Prophet's favorites, and turned the Church's "community enterprises" into monopolistic exploitations of the Mormon people. And this change began even while our negotiations were pending in New York—for they were prolonged, for various reasons, into the summer of 1898, and they were interrupted finally by the death of President Woodruff."

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/7066/7...

The nepotism links I have seen show the familial ties between the leadership in TSCC, but I would like to see the ties between the corporations who have done, and currently do business with TSCC, the fortunes that have been built AND the leadership. Ties to local government, the legislature, and congress would be interesting to examine too. Who is looking into that? Frank J. Cannon talked about this, and many fortunes appear to have been amassed around that time. The monopolies that were created largely benefitted individual families, and not general church membership over the decades.
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Wednesday, Jul 21, 2010, at 08:09 AM
While Mormons Scrubbed Chapel Toilets For Free, LDS Inc. Planned "Fire Fountains"
Original Author(s): Bean Counter
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From the June 25/10 Deseret News report: The developers [City Creek Reserve, a division of LD$ Inc. a.k.a. the Mormon Church] have hired Sun Valley, Calif.-based Wet Design, which has made award-winning water fountains throughout the world - including the famous fountain at the Bellagio in Las Vegas - to design water features for City Creek Center.
"There will be some that are musically choreographed," Gibbons said, "and some features never implemented before."

City Creek Reserve officials declined to reveal more, saying they didn't want to spoil the unveiling in 2012 by Wet Design.

"I'll give you the teaser that there's some fire involved, and it will be quite dramatic," [City Creek Reserve President Mark] Gibbons said."
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/70...

Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?
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Friday, Nov 12, 2010, at 08:39 AM
The Mormon Church Plans To Spend Millions On A "Retractable Roof"
Original Author(s): Infymus
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From the Tucson Citizen:
Dubai. Salt Lake City. Northeast Phoenix.

City Creek Center, a 25-acre project planned in Salt Lake City, also has plans for a retractable roof. Salt Lake's Deseret News reported earlier this year that the cost of the roof could reach $1.5 billion.
http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue/2008/...

From the Mormon owned Deseret News:
The tour offered the first peek at a proposed retractable roof over a portion of the open-air mall, expected to be utilized during extreme weather. The elongated dome over one portion of the project's galleria space divides at its center and retracts out of view.

Bill Williams, CCRI's director of architecture and engineering, said the retractable roof is being designed by the engineers behind the mechanized roof at Safeco Field in Seattle, home of Major League Baseball's Mariners.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/69...