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Stories of being gay - and being Mormon.
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Being Gay And Mormon
Saturday, Apr 8, 2006, at 08:27 AM
Original Author(s): Infymus
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Mormonism does not tolerate gays and lesbians. Any Mormon member that confesses to being gay is automatically forced to appear in front of Church Courts. These Courts then decide whether the individual transgressions merit either excommunication or dis-fellowshipping.

The leaders of the Mormon Church teach that a man is a God-Embryo and therefore cannot be born gay. Mormon leaders teach that gay and lesbian human beings choose their lifestyles. They teach that this choice came about from sinful parents, masturbation, or willful disobedience of the commandments of God. All blame for the sin of being gay or lesbian is placed on the individual causing depression, hopelessness and often - suicide.

Mormon Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley stated on Larry King Live (December 2004), "We know they have a problem [homosexuals]. We want to help them solve that problem. ...[sic]... The fact is, they have a problem."

During the 1970's the practice of electro-shock therapy was used at the LDS Church owned Brigham Young University. There, gay men were electrocuted in an attempt to stop their "innopropriate" behavior.

There are no gay or lesbian Mormons who are in "good standing" with the LDS Church. Those that are excommunicated are no longer able to participate in any Mormon Church function, including praying, teaching or holding any office. The Mormon priesthood is taken away and all "blessings", rights and Temple privileges are taken away. Excommunicated members are further ostracized in Mormon Sacrament Meetings where they are forbidden to take the Sacramental offerings - or even speak vocally.

The Mormon Church has spent millions of dollars to prevent gay and lesbian marriages.
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Every Mormon I Know Thinks Gays Made The Choice
Friday, Feb 25, 2005, at 08:33 AM
Original Author(s): Knownot
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
They all laugh at even the possibility that there's more to it than simply choosing one's sexual orientation. They often explain that "the media" or some sort of influential group convinced them they are gay.

I must say that this idea seems so stupid and ignorant to me - that for thousands of years, perfectly heterosexual people on every inch of the populated earth have suddenly decided they are gay... that they're suddenly and sexually attracted to members of the same sex. It's totally nonsense!

I usually like to respond to these types with something like this:

If you're position is that everyone simply "chooses" to be gay or straight, you are saying that **you** yourself are a potential homosexual. Somewhere out there, another homosexual is charming and good looking enough that they could REVERSE your sexual attraction?? All it would take is some erotic homosexual stimulation, and you would suddenly find yourself becoming homosexually aroused????

That's very interesting. I myself know for a fact that there is NO guy out there who could "flip my switch" - no matter how handsome he was. LOL! Uhhh, nope... It just doesn't work that way, because I just wasn't "made" that way. You, on the other hand, you had better watch yourself and pay close attention to where your eyes are wandering. LOL! Somewhere out there, a REALLY handsome and charming guy is just waiting to take your heterosexual identity and convince you to throw it in the trash! You'd better be careful! Stay strong, or you might just make the "wrong" choice and "become" gay.


I do not claim to know where homosexuality originates or even exactly what it is or how it works. I don't think many other people do either. However, I do know with much certainty that I could not simply "choose" to become gay. I assume that most other humans are also fitted with a non-reversible sexual orientation. Of course there could be exceptions, but I don't imagine they are the majority.
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AMA Cheif Defends Ban On Gay Group
Wednesday, Mar 9, 2005, at 07:33 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
From The Journal News:
WHITE PLAINS – The president of the American Medical Association this week defended a decision by New York Medical College to ban a gay students group from campus, calling it a decision by a private institution to uphold its standards and likening it to Brigham Young University's decisions to ban Coca-Cola from campus and to suspend four athletes accused of raping a 17-year-old girl.

AMA President John Nelson's comments, which he made in an interview before addressing the Westchester County Medical Society on Thursday night, follows more than a month of harsh criticism of the college's action from political, educational and medical leaders in Westchester.

Nelson said doctors should treat gays "with dignity, with respect and with absolute confidentiality" and said the AMA would be concerned if New York Medical College were graduating students "with clinical biases that might affect the way they practice medicine." But he added he has no reason "to believe that that's the case" and said the right of gay students to organize at the college should be balanced against the right of a private institution to set and enforce its own policies.

The Valhalla college is affiliated with the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York and has said it banned the group because it conflicted with the college's "Catholic traditions." Brigham Young University is a Mormon institution. The Mormon Church, like the Catholic Church, believes homosexuality is a sin.

Nelson said he was speaking for the AMA, not as a Mormon.
It is well known that Mormons are homophobic. It could easily be proven that John Nelson's decision to defend the ban is completely centered in his religious views. His prophet on a live TV show stated that gays have problems. His doctrine clearly illustrates that gays cannot hold the priesthood, cannot enter the temple and will not enter the "Celestial Kingdom" unless they stop being gay. Click Here For Original Thread...
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Mormons On A Mission
Wednesday, Mar 30, 2005, at 09:37 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is one of the most powerful forces working to defeat gay equality. And openly gay and lesbian Mormons are the most powerful force working to change their church.

Excerpted from The Advocate, April 12, 2005

Struggling with his gay sexual orientation several years ago, Aaron Cloward sought help from the leaders of his local Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He didn't get any. "The last [Mormon] bishop I talked to said, `You are rejecting Christ. You are on the pathway to hell,'" says Cloward. "The way that makes you feel-"

He considered suicide.

"I walked home and got my boxes of Benadryl," remembers Cloward, now a 28-year-old surgical technician who lives in Salt Lake City. "Fortunately I had the presence of mind to call my mom. She came over and held me as I cried myself to sleep. It made me take a step back and look at the church with a critical eye."

Cloward, who served on a church mission to Southern California, quickly left behind the church and its antigay doctrine, which says that its followers can go forward in the religion only if they do not act on their same-sex attraction. He started a support group in Salt Lake City called Gay LDS Young Adults in the hope of helping other gay and lesbian Mormons find comfort and acceptance as they struggle with the church's teachings and long-held traditions.

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Mormon Church's Attempts To Cure Homosexuality
Wednesday, May 11, 2005, at 07:48 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
In the early 1970s at BYU that they used shock aversion therapy to try and shock homosexuals out of their orientation. I understand that they used naked pictures of women and men. They'd shock the guys when the sensors on them indicated a positive sexual response to men. They eventually abandoned the program, of course.

Let's face it, those "inspired" leaders are at a complete loss as to how to deal with homosexuality. They have organizations such as Evergreen which claim to cure homosexuality, but through the years the self denial crashes and many, if not most men return to their natural homosexual orientation. The Church considers homosexuality a choice inspired of evil.
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The Spiritual Side Of Pride
Monday, Jun 6, 2005, at 07:22 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Jere Keys grew up in the archetypical Mormon family: Sundays at church, family time together on Monday evenings, baptism and the priesthood progression, Boy Scouts, youth groups, daily prayer.

Along the way, he says, he was taught in church that gays were "promiscuous, godless and evil." He remembers a seminary teacher telling the class, "Homosexual people don't love each other. They're only interested in selfish pleasure."

Keys was a senior in high school when he came to accept that he was gay. His belief in God dissolved, and he believed he would never be accepted as a good Mormon because he didn't want to marry a woman - he longed for a man.

"Gay was wrong," says Keys, now 28. "I wasn't angry at God, but at the church, for making me feel ashamed of myself."

Now, after years of hating the LDS Church and denying religion, Keys says he has found "spiritual peace" and hopes folks - gay and straight - realize that faith is important to all people.

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The Double Sin Of Homosexuality
Monday, Nov 28, 2005, at 09:36 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Mormons have taught that any sex outside of marriage is a sin against the doctrines of God. In addition, however, homosexuality has also been called a 'sin against nature' or just 'unnatural.' In other words it is a 'double sin' - against God and against nature. I searched through some of LDS.org looking for a quote to reference and didn't find one. I know Mormon authorities have referred to homosexuality as unnatural but no link for this post. The unmarried heterosexual couple who slips and 'goes all the way' one night have sinned against God according to Mormonism. That is pretty clear. But they can repent, have a ceremony performed, and resume the same activity that got them into trouble with no on-going sin declared on them. Not so for the homosexual couple. There is no way these two can be together within the boundaries of Mormonism without continuing to sin. Repentance will probably require that they completely stop associating with one another not just stopping any sexual activity. Their is no hope fora future within the LDS structure for the gay couple.

Another quote from Paul Monette and 'Becoming A Man': "It wasn't sex I couldn't keep up with, being gay and invisible - it was self." It is true that Mormonism requires a "Stepford Wife" sort of behavior from all it's members. Straight members, however, are allowed a very central quality of who they are - their sexuality. Yes, they might find they need to curb some or perhaps even a good deal of their natural proclivities, but they are still allowed the core of who they are and what they want. For gay Mormons, however, this simply is not the case. They are required to completely subvert, alter, and change or hide what is at their core to conform to the Mormon ideal. Mormonism condemns gay members to a completely superficial life - there is no relief, no escape from a vigil of self suppression.
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Homosexuality And Mormonism
Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 09:35 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Mormonism claims that it loves homosexuals and treats them with respect. However, this is not the case and no member of the church who is a practicing homosexual can hold any office, any title, speak in church, hold meetings, teach classes, partake of the Sacrament nor hold any callings.

Recently, Gordon B. Hinckley, President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints spoke on December 26, 2004 with Larry King Live and stated the following:
HINCKLEY: Well, we're not anti-gay. We are pro-family. Let me put it that way.

And we love these people and try to work with them and help them. We know they have a problem. We want to help them solve that problem.

KING: A problem they caused, or they were born with?

HINCKLEY: I don't know. I'm not an expert on these things. I don't pretend to be an expert on these things. The fact is, they have a problem.
Here are references to Mormon Church teachings against homosexuals. Reasons the church gives its members to fear and hate homosexuals:

Homosexuals "seldom are happy people"

"Homosexuals and lesbians seldom are happy people. Theirs is a relationship that is unnatural, one not bound by fidelity, trust, or loyalty, and one totally lacking in the meaningful family relationships that marriage offers. Homosexuality often espouses emotional problems because of the constant insecurity inherent in a relationship neither sanctioned by nor protected by the law."

"Because there is no legal bond, homosexuality too often encourages, or at least permits, promiscuity."

"To say that "no one gets hurt" is presumptive. Homosexuals are hurt by the unacceptability of the relationship, not only by society, but also by themselves. This is evidenced by their almost universal desire that their children (if they have any) not follow the same pattern."

"Someone does get hurt. There is harm in homosexuality. Many homosexuals seek to introduce others into their practice, often those in their tender, impressionable years. Many studies have indicated that such early homosexual experience may interfere with normal sexual adjustment in subsequent marriage."

"Nor is homosexuality compatible with peace of mind, tranquility of soul, or with the Spirit of our Father in heaven that all of us want, need, and enjoy when we live in accordance with his laws."

"Just as the Word of Wisdom is the Lord's way with or without medical proof of its value to our health, so likewise the moral law taught by the Church does not require any medical proof of its value to our spiritual and physical health. It is sufficient that the Lord has told us to marry, to have children, and to do this according to the righteous ways of the law of God. In this lies physical health, emotional stability, and true happiness."
- LDS Church Ensign, July 1974, Page 14

Homosexuality is Pleasing to the Devil

Apostle James E. Faust, "Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil," Spring Conference 1995

"The Church's stand on homosexual relations provides another arena where we offend the devil. I expect that the statement of the First Presidency and the Twelve against homosexual marriages will continue to be assaulted. Satan is only interested in our misery, which he promotes by trying to persuade men and women to act contrary to God's plan. One way he does this is by encouraging the inappropriate use of sacred creative powers. A bona fide marriage is one between a man and a woman solemnized by the proper legal or ecclesiastical authority. Only sexual relations between husband and wife within the bonds of marriage are acceptable before the Lord."

"There is some widely accepted theory extant that homosexuality is inherited. How can this be? No scientific evidence demonstrates absolutely that this is so. Besides, if it were so, it would frustrate the whole plan of mortal happiness. Our designation as men or women began before this world was. In contrast to the socially accepted doctrine that homosexuality is inborn, a number of respectable authorities contend that homosexuality is not acquired by birth. The false belief of inborn homosexual orientation denies to repentant souls the opportunity to change and will ultimately lead to discouragement, disappointment, and despair."

"Alternatives to the legal and loving marriage between a man and a woman are helping to unravel the fabric of human society. I am sure this is pleasing to the devil. The fabric I refer to is the family. These so-called alternative life-styles must not be accepted as right, because they frustrate God's commandment for a life-giving union of male and female within a legal marriage as stated in Genesis. If practiced by all adults, these life-styles would mean the end of the human family."

Homosexuality Makes Men "servants of Satan forever"

"Sometimes masturbation is the introduction to the more serious sins of exhibitionism and the gross sin of homosexuality. We would avoid mentioning these unholy terms and these reprehensible practices were it not for the fact that we have a responsibility to the youth of Zion that they be not deceived by those who would call bad good, and black white."

"The unholy transgression of homosexuality is either rapidly growing or tolerance is giving it wider publicity. If one has such desires and tendencies, he overcomes them the same as if he had the urge toward petting or fornication or adultery. The Lord condemns and forbids this practice with a vigor equal to his condemnation of adultery and other such sex acts. And the Church will excommunicate as readily any unrepentant addict."

"Good men, wise men, God-fearing men everywhere still denounce the practice as being unworthy of sons of God; and Christ's church denounces it and condemns it so long as men have bodies which can be defiled."

"This heinous homosexual sin is of the ages. Many cities and civilizations have gone out of existence because of it. It was present in Israel's wandering days, tolerated by the Greeks, and found in the baths of corrupt Rome."

"This is a most unpleasant subject to dwell upon, but I am pressed to speak of it boldly so that no youth in the Church will ever have any question in his mind as to the illicit and diabolical nature of this perverse program. Again, Lucifer deceives and prompts logic and rationalization which will destroy men and make them servants of Satan forever."

"The difference between the reprobate and the worthy person is generally that one yielded and the other resisted. It is true that one's background may make the decision and accomplishment easier or more difficult, but if one is mentally alert, he can still control his future. That is the gospel message--personal responsibility."

"And now, my dear young people, I have spoken frankly and boldly against the sins of the day. Even though I dislike such a subject, I believe it necessary to warn the youth against the onslaught of the arch tempter who, with his army of emissaries and all the tools at his command, would destroy all the youth of Zion, largely through deception, misrepresentation, and lies."
- The Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "President Kimball Speaks Out on Morality," LDS New Era, Nov. 1980, Page 39

Death penalty for Homosexuals?

"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle (later the prophet) Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965.

Violence Against Homosexuals is Okay, the Idea that People are Born Gay is of the Devil

"There are some circumstances in which young men may be tempted to handle one another, to have contact with one another physically in unusual ways. Latter-day Saint young men are not to do this. It is remarkably dangerous. Such practices, however tempting, are perversion."

"While I was in a mission on one occasion, a missionary said he had something to confess. I was very worried because he just could not get himself to tell me what he had done."

"After patient encouragement he finally blurted out, "I hit my companion.""

""Oh, is that all," I said in great relief."

""But I floored him," he said."

"After learning a little more, my response was "Well, thanks. Somebody had to do it, and it wouldn't be well for a General Authority to solve the problem that way""

"I am not recommending that course to you, but I am not omitting it."

"There is a falsehood that some are born with an attraction to their own kind, with nothing they can do about it. They are just "that way" and can only yield to those desires. That is a malicious and destructive lie. While it is a convincing idea to some, it is of the devil. No one is locked into that kind of life. From our premortal life we were directed into a physical body. There is no mismatching of bodies and spirits. Boys are to become men --masculine, manly men --ultimately to become husbands and fathers. No one is predestined to a perverted use of these powers."
- Apostle Boyd K. Packer, church-wide pamphlett "For Young Men Only" also General Conference Priesthood Session, October 2, 1976,
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Homosexuals Are "Servants Of Satan Forever" Says LDS Church
Monday, Jan 9, 2006, at 08:26 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Homosexuality is Pleasing to the Devil

Apostle James E. Faust, "Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil," Spring Conference 1995

"The Church’s stand on homosexual relations provides another arena where we offend the devil. I expect that the statement of the First Presidency and the Twelve against homosexual marriages will continue to be assaulted. Satan is only interested in our misery, which he promotes by trying to persuade men and women to act contrary to God’s plan. One way he does this is by encouraging the inappropriate use of sacred creative powers. A bona fide marriage is one between a man and a woman solemnized by the proper legal or ecclesiastical authority. Only sexual relations between husband and wife within the bonds of marriage are acceptable before the Lord."

"There is some widely accepted theory extant that homosexuality is inherited. How can this be? No scientific evidence demonstrates absolutely that this is so. Besides, if it were so, it would frustrate the whole plan of mortal happiness. Our designation as men or women began before this world was. In contrast to the socially accepted doctrine that homosexuality is inborn, a number of respectable authorities contend that homosexuality is not acquired by birth. The false belief of inborn homosexual orientation denies to repentant souls the opportunity to change and will ultimately lead to discouragement, disappointment, and despair."

"Alternatives to the legal and loving marriage between a man and a woman are helping to unravel the fabric of human society. I am sure this is pleasing to the devil. The fabric I refer to is the family. These so-called alternative life-styles must not be accepted as right, because they frustrate God’s commandment for a life-giving union of male and female within a legal marriage as stated in Genesis. If practiced by all adults, these life-styles would mean the end of the human family."

Homosexuality Makes Men "servants of Satan forever"

"Sometimes masturbation is the introduction to the more serious sins of exhibitionism and the gross sin of homosexuality. We would avoid mentioning these unholy terms and these reprehensible practices were it not for the fact that we have a responsibility to the youth of Zion that they be not deceived by those who would call bad good, and black white."

"The unholy transgression of homosexuality is either rapidly growing or tolerance is giving it wider publicity. If one has such desires and tendencies, he overcomes them the same as if he had the urge toward petting or fornication or adultery. The Lord condemns and forbids this practice with a vigor equal to his condemnation of adultery and other such sex acts. And the Church will excommunicate as readily any unrepentant addict."

"Good men, wise men, God-fearing men everywhere still denounce the practice as being unworthy of sons of God; and Christ’s church denounces it and condemns it so long as men have bodies which can be defiled."

"This heinous homosexual sin is of the ages. Many cities and civilizations have gone out of existence because of it. It was present in Israel’s wandering days, tolerated by the Greeks, and found in the baths of corrupt Rome."

"This is a most unpleasant subject to dwell upon, but I am pressed to speak of it boldly so that no youth in the Church will ever have any question in his mind as to the illicit and diabolical nature of this perverse program. Again, Lucifer deceives and prompts logic and rationalization which will destroy men and make them servants of Satan forever."

"The difference between the reprobate and the worthy person is generally that one yielded and the other resisted. It is true that one’s background may make the decision and accomplishment easier or more difficult, but if one is mentally alert, he can still control his future. That is the gospel message--personal responsibility."

"And now, my dear young people, I have spoken frankly and boldly against the sins of the day. Even though I dislike such a subject, I believe it necessary to warn the youth against the onslaught of the arch tempter who, with his army of emissaries and all the tools at his command, would destroy all the youth of Zion, largely through deception, misrepresentation, and lies."
- The Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "President Kimball Speaks Out on Morality," LDS New Era, Nov. 1980, Page 39

Death penalty for Homosexuals?

"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle (later the prophet) Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965.

Violence Against Homosexuals is Okay, the Idea that People are Born Gay is of the Devil

"There are some circumstances in which young men may be tempted to handle one another, to have contact with one another physically in unusual ways. Latter-day Saint young men are not to do this. It is remarkably dangerous. Such practices, however tempting, are perversion."

"While I was in a mission on one occasion, a missionary said he had something to confess. I was very worried because he just could not get himself to tell me what he had done."

"After patient encouragement he finally blurted out, "I hit my companion.""

""Oh, is that all," I said in great relief."

""But I floored him," he said."

"After learning a little more, my response was "Well, thanks. Somebody had to do it, and it wouldn't be well for a General Authority to solve the problem that way""

"I am not recommending that course to you, but I am not omitting it."

"There is a falsehood that some are born with an attraction to their own kind, with nothing they can do about it. They are just "that way" and can only yield to those desires. That is a malicious and destructive lie. While it is a convincing idea to some, it is of the devil. No one is locked into that kind of life. From our premortal life we were directed into a physical body. There is no mismatching of bodies and spirits. Boys are to become men --masculine, manly men --ultimately to become husbands and fathers. No one is predestined to a perverted use of these powers."
- Apostle Boyd K. Packer, church-wide pamphlett "For Young Men Only" also General Conference Priesthood Session, October 2, 1976, http://www.lds-mormon.com/only.shtml
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LDS Church Says Homosexuals Are "Seldom Happy People"
Tuesday, May 30, 2006, at 07:29 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Why the LDS Church thinks Homosexuals "seldom are happy people"

"Homosexuals and lesbians seldom are happy people. Theirs is a relationship that is unnatural, one not bound by fidelity, trust, or loyalty, and one totally lacking in the meaningful family relationships that marriage offers. Homosexuality often espouses emotional problems because of the constant insecurity inherent in a relationship neither sanctioned by nor protected by the law."

"Because there is no legal bond, homosexuality too often encourages, or at least permits, promiscuity."

"To say that "no one gets hurt" is presumptive. Homosexuals are hurt by the unacceptability of the relationship, not only by society, but also by themselves. This is evidenced by their almost universal desire that their children (if they have any) not follow the same pattern."

"Someone does get hurt. There is harm in homosexuality. Many homosexuals seek to introduce others into their practice, often those in their tender, impressionable years. Many studies have indicated that such early homosexual experience may interfere with normal sexual adjustment in subsequent marriage."

"Nor is homosexuality compatible with peace of mind, tranquility of soul, or with the Spirit of our Father in heaven that all of us want, need, and enjoy when we live in accordance with his laws."

"Just as the Word of Wisdom is the Lord’s way with or without medical proof of its value to our health, so likewise the moral law taught by the Church does not require any medical proof of its value to our spiritual and physical health. It is sufficient that the Lord has told us to marry, to have children, and to do this according to the righteous ways of the law of God. In this lies physical health, emotional stability, and true happiness." - LDS Church Ensign, July 1974, Page 14
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Mormons Use Divine Slavery Argument To Bash Homosexuals
Tuesday, May 30, 2006, at 07:47 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
A True Believing Mormon wrote in the Deseret News, Friday, July 4, 2003:

"Sodomy is still disgusting. The Supreme Court's decision regarding homosexuals is another "Day of Infamy." All Christians who accept the Bible as God's word should consider: How far back did it start? Genesis 13:13: "But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly."

What was the sin? Two angels visited Lot, and the men of Sodom called, "Where are the men which came into thee this night? Bring them out unto us that we might know them." The term "know" was used to refer to sexual relations per Genesis 19:5.

Later Paul wrote, condemning, "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the women, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working that which is unseemly." Roman 1:27. Man may make decisions to allow sodomy, but God has spoken against this disgusting and evil act.

Keith Olson Taylorsville

Funny how the Bible was used in the very same way to justify slavery.

The Prophet Joseph Smith said, "the first mention we have of slavery is found in the Holy Bible,... And so far from that prediction being averse to the mind of God, it remains as a lasting monument of the decree of Jehovah, to the shame and confusion of all who have cried out against the South, in consequence of their holding the sons of Ham in servitude." - Joseph Smith, History of the Church, by Joseph Smith, Vol. 2, pages 436-438

The Prophet Brigham Young said: "Ham will continue to be servant of servants, as the Lord decreed, until the curse is removed. Will the present [Civil War] struggle free the slave? NO; but they are now wasting away the black race by thousands.... Treat the slaves kindly and let them live, for ham must be the servant of servants until the curse is removed. Can you destroy the decrees of the Almighty? You Cannot." - Brigham Young, Millennial Star, Vol. 25, page 787; also published in Journal of Discourses, Vol. 10, page 250

See: http://www.realmormonhistory.com/god&skin.htm

All of those Mormons out there using Bible passages to justify hate for homosexuality should be in favor of slavery too.

Bible God Establishes Slavery and Slave Branding

LEVITICUS 25:44-46 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

EXODUS 21: 2-6 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself. And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money."

God Commands Slaves to Completely Obey and Fear their Masters, Even if their Master is Cruel and Unjust

“Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward" (1 Peter 2:18). "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ" (Ephesians 6:5) “Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things” (Titus 2:9-10).

Now if we were people stuck in the ancient superstitions and traditions of our forefathers, we'd be thumping the Bible and defending slavery. We'd be quoting the Bible and saying that slavery is a divine institution. After all, God commanded slavery in the Bible. And to be sure, Jesus and the New Testament commanded slaves to be totally obedient to their masters.

Fortunately, we as a society have wised up enough to reject this Bible instruction and have progressed beyond slavery.

Using the Bible to justify hate against homosexuals is just as much a mistake as using the Bible to justify slavery.
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A Classic LDS.org Response To "Errors In The News" Re: "Those Who Refer To Themselves As" Homosexuals
Friday, Jun 16, 2006, at 09:48 AM
Original Author(s): Koriwhore
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
http://www.lds.org/newsroom/mistakes/...

Notice how these weasel PR guys very carefully choose their words to avoid actually refering to homosexuals as homosexuals, they always have to preface it with, "those who refer to themselves as" or "Those who struggle with same-gender attraction" or "those who profess homosexual tendencies", which are all subtle ways of saying, "We don't believe that God makes mistakes, and therefor there's no such thing as a homosexual."

Categorizing homosexuality as a sin that needs to be overcome instead of a biological, natural tendency, is an insult to homosexuals.

The last sentence is ironic.

"Marriage is also defined by God as the union of a man and woman, and we are not at liberty to change that definition."

Notice how they carefully word that to say "a man and woman" instead of "one man and one woman"?

They might as well say "a man and women."

Just where does God define marriage as "a union between a man and woman"?

D&C 132? Which says it's perfectly fine for a man to marry more than one woman?

The BOM, which says that polygamy is an abomination before God?

Familysearch.org, Where even the LDS church can't deny that JS "married" other men's wives and orphaned teenage daughters, but in reality just exploited them for sexual favors and tossed them aside?

OD1, where God apparently redefined the definition of marriage and his requirement for Mormons to practice polygamy so that Utah could join the union and the Mormon church could cover its assets?
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Your Temple Blessings Have Been Restored - How Mormonism Cures A Homosexual After Death
Monday, Mar 5, 2007, at 07:35 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
My mom recently wrote to tell us all of the wonderful news that my grandfather, a person excommunicated twice for homosexuality, has been rebaptised and the Powers That Be in SLC have seen fit to posthumously restore his temple blessings.

My grandfather suffered his whole life on account of his homosexuality. It was only his later years that came to terms with it and accepted it fully.

After my grandfather's second excommunication, he was told that he could never again regain membership in the Lord's True Cult.

Unfortunately, I did not know my grandfather well. He died when I was 14 years old from AIDS, sadly. Knowing my grandfather from his writings (he was a voluminous journal keeper, but I have every reason to believe that following my grandmother's death, his non-faith promoting journals were destroyed), he would not be pleased by this development. He had moved on from Mormonism, finding a church home at the Metropolitan Community Church in Salt Lake City.

I have the fondest memories of my grandfather. Needless to say, it was hugely embarassing for my ultra-TBM mother and ultra-TBM father when he came out publicly. He loved his children and his grandchildren. I could always count on birthday and other letters from my grandfather. I am still amazed that my mom let my sister and I stay overnight at his apartment following my grandparents' legal separation. His letters to us were always censored first by my mother to make sure that he was not trying to get us to agree to his lifestyle.

His was one miserable life in many ways. However, this recent news from home has been jarring to me. I had my name removed from the Lord's One True Cult, but this news means that should I predecease my parents, there is nothing that I could do to prevent their doing temple on my behalf.

Very, very annoying.
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Mormon Church Says Homosexuality Makes Men "Servants Of Satan Forever"
Monday, May 21, 2007, at 07:55 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
How long will it take before future Mormon Church leaders deny the church ever taught this BS?

How much more hate will the "only true church" continue to preach against homosexuals?

Homosexuality is Pleasing to the Devil

Apostle James E. Faust, "Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil," Spring Conference 1995

"The Church’s stand on homosexual relations provides another arena where we offend the devil. I expect that the statement of the First Presidency and the Twelve against homosexual marriages will continue to be assaulted. Satan is only interested in our misery, which he promotes by trying to persuade men and women to act contrary to God’s plan. One way he does this is by encouraging the inappropriate use of sacred creative powers. A bona fide marriage is one between a man and a woman solemnized by the proper legal or ecclesiastical authority. Only sexual relations between husband and wife within the bonds of marriage are acceptable before the Lord."

"There is some widely accepted theory extant that homosexuality is inherited. How can this be? No scientific evidence demonstrates absolutely that this is so. Besides, if it were so, it would frustrate the whole plan of mortal happiness. Our designation as men or women began before this world was. In contrast to the socially accepted doctrine that homosexuality is inborn, a number of respectable authorities contend that homosexuality is not acquired by birth. The false belief of inborn homosexual orientation denies to repentant souls the opportunity to change and will ultimately lead to discouragement, disappointment, and despair."

"Alternatives to the legal and loving marriage between a man and a woman are helping to unravel the fabric of human society. I am sure this is pleasing to the devil. The fabric I refer to is the family. These so-called alternative life-styles must not be accepted as right, because they frustrate God’s commandment for a life-giving union of male and female within a legal marriage as stated in Genesis. If practiced by all adults, these life-styles would mean the end of the human family."

Homosexuality Makes Men "servants of Satan forever"

"Sometimes masturbation is the introduction to the more serious sins of exhibitionism and the gross sin of homosexuality. We would avoid mentioning these unholy terms and these reprehensible practices were it not for the fact that we have a responsibility to the youth of Zion that they be not deceived by those who would call bad good, and black white."

"The unholy transgression of homosexuality is either rapidly growing or tolerance is giving it wider publicity. If one has such desires and tendencies, he overcomes them the same as if he had the urge toward petting or fornication or adultery. The Lord condemns and forbids this practice with a vigor equal to his condemnation of adultery and other such sex acts. And the Church will excommunicate as readily any unrepentant addict."

"Good men, wise men, God-fearing men everywhere still denounce the practice as being unworthy of sons of God; and Christ’s church denounces it and condemns it so long as men have bodies which can be defiled."

"This heinous homosexual sin is of the ages. Many cities and civilizations have gone out of existence because of it. It was present in Israel’s wandering days, tolerated by the Greeks, and found in the baths of corrupt Rome."

"This is a most unpleasant subject to dwell upon, but I am pressed to speak of it boldly so that no youth in the Church will ever have any question in his mind as to the illicit and diabolical nature of this perverse program. Again, Lucifer deceives and prompts logic and rationalization which will destroy men and make them servants of Satan forever."

"The difference between the reprobate and the worthy person is generally that one yielded and the other resisted. It is true that one’s background may make the decision and accomplishment easier or more difficult, but if one is mentally alert, he can still control his future. That is the gospel message--personal responsibility."

"And now, my dear young people, I have spoken frankly and boldly against the sins of the day. Even though I dislike such a subject, I believe it necessary to warn the youth against the onslaught of the arch tempter who, with his army of emissaries and all the tools at his command, would destroy all the youth of Zion, largely through deception, misrepresentation, and lies." - The Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "President Kimball Speaks Out on Morality," LDS New Era, Nov. 1980, Page 39

Death penalty for Homosexuals?

"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed." - Apostle (later the prophet) Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Devotional January 5, 1965.
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"Their Lives Are Paved With Sorrow" - Horrific Church News Article About Gay Mormons
Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007, at 07:03 AM
Original Author(s): Lucyfer
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The latest HORROR in the ongoing Mormon war against gay males is an almost unbelievable article in the Church News dated July 21, 2007 in which several gay TBM men tell their personal stories of self-loathing, torture and suffering at the hands of a belief system that despises them and yet will not let them go.

These stories are gut wrenching. I literally winced in pain with tears in my eyes just reading them. For once, I actually believed these were real stories instead of the made-up sweety-sweet tales I usually read in this rag. Here is a brief summary:

All of the men quoted served honorable missions and all related instances of immense personal pain about their sinfulness whilst doing so. So much for the mission years being the happiest in your life – gah!!!

All of the men interviewed had married young Mormon women immediately upon returning from their mission – most at the urging of some Mission Prez, Bishop or Stake Prez. In some instances, the men had confessed their “sin” of same sex- attraction to some idiot Mormon leader who insisted that marriage to and subsequent sex with a female would solve everything (how ignorant can people be?) Some of the men had confessed their evil same-sex attraction to their spouse during their marriage (even before in one case) - others had not. All had borne children within the marriage. All related torturous tales of desperation, suicidal depression, and the inevitable compulsion to act on the overwhelming attraction to other males. Some left their families for periods of time and then returned – others simply suffered in silence while their self-hatred continued to eat them alive.

All of these poor men continued to state unequivocally that they maintain their “testimonies” that the COJCOLDS is true – that they are the ones who are broken or wrong – the Church is perfect.

I do not understand how it serves the Church to have good men like this live in complete and utter agony. Living a lie like this damages the men, their wives, the children born into these relationships – EVERYONE! There is no happiness or joy here – only pain and suffering. No one is served by this practice – it is appalling in the extreme. The cruelty of the Mormon Church is stunning at times.

Oddly enough, there were some points made in this article which surprised me. One of the so-called “experts” cited actually clarified the following issues:
  • People do not CHOOSE to be homosexual
  • Homosexuality and child molestation do NOT go hand in hand – they are completely separate and distinct phenomena which are NOT inter-related in any way.
  • Being gay does not make someone “bad” and does not mean that the person has done something wrong or is being punished in some way.
Ok – well, that’s all very well and good. I am glad to see that TSCC is coming into the current millennium on a few points related to same-sex attraction. However, then we find statements like this one from Brother Floyd Godfrey, executive director of Family Strategies and Coaching in Mesa, AZ who states that he believes same sex attraction has to do with “emotional deficiencies and wounds”. Oh – so gays aren’t bad, cursed or just choosing to sin – they are just emotionally stunted or twisted – in other words – WACKED! So much for progress on this score, I guess.

While TSCC offers no explanation for WHY a supposedly loving God would cause people to suffer in this manner, they are quick to state that homosexuality is a sin against God and that it will be punished. The intolerance and judgementalism of this belief system never ceases to amaze and disgust me.

The article closes with this statement:

“Although life’s road might be lonely for those of same-sex attraction, happiness can be found in the Church by faithfully following its teachings.”

Funny that the stories of the very men they quoted in this article completely contradicted this statement in every single instance.
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Gay Mormon Stories Website
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009, at 01:21 PM
Original Author(s): Tlc
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
I created the website GayMormonStories.com several years ago as a place where those of us who are gay and ex-mormon or gay and mormon could share our stories and read each others' stories without having to worry about digging through negativity or mo-cult feedback. It's a very simple website with some amazing stories on it. I own it, I designed it, I maintain it and am soley responsible for its content.

My domain host changed ownership about a year ago and in the process there were preferences in my account that got deleted and as a result for at least the past year all of the communications and submissions from GayMormonStories.com have been going into an unmarked and therefore unread mailbox. Because of that it would have appeared to a lot of people who wrote into me that I was ignoring their messages or story submissions. I apologize for that. It was a glitch in the system and I never saw a thing in my regular inbox. I thought people had stopped referring to the website or had simply lost interest and that's why the submissions and messages had stopped coming in. I couldn't have been more wrong.

I figured out a few days ago that there was a problem and have fixed it. In the process I discovered that there were several hundred messages that had gone unread and unanswered; a pretty sad state of affairs considering the mormon involvement in the Prop 8 debacle in California and the desire on the part of many to share their feelings and stories with me and my website visitors about all of that.

My purpose here is to let you know that the website is current, the email problem fixed and things are back to normal. If you have submitted comments or stories to me in the past and didn't hear back from me, please resubmit them. I do want to hear from you and I do care.

You should also know that I automatically delete, without reading them, any communications to me that are anything short of soaringly supportive and caring. There are lots of places to bare/bear/behr your testimony as to the unkindness of your beliefs but GayMormonStories isn't one of them.

p.s. I need to stress that this thread is not a resurrection of the Prop 8 conversation and should it go there I definitely won't be a participant. I've spoken my peace and have moved onto other forms of activism. Thanks!

http://www.gaymormonstories.com
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Another One Bites The Dust
Thursday, Mar 26, 2009, at 08:46 AM
Original Author(s): Tlc
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Another gay mormon has taken his life. Out of respect for the family I'm not going to get into details. My son in law knew him and the information is firsthand. He came out to his mormon family and was subsequently ostracized. He tried to hold on but the pain was too much. A memorial service for him is being held today; the obituary was a sad resume` written by his family to make it look like he was some kind of a stellar mormon. He was not.

Even in death those who are unfortunate enough to be born both gay and mormon aren't given the respect they deserve and the rest they've finally earned. Even in death mormons are incapable of extending the the tiniest crumbles of human decency.

Last night I cried as I sat at a small cafe` table listening to a mother whose young son tried to end his life because of his despair over being gay. The family was deeply mired in mormonism at the time and the irreconcilable conflict in this boy's delicate heart became too much for him to handle. His first attempt didn't cut deep enough so he found something more effective and would have been successful had it not been for those who found him and rushed him to the hospital.

If you've ever been tempted to think that the story in the movie Latter Days was an exaggeration I must tell you, it's truly only the tip of the iceberg. Mormons have become skilled at covering up the real reason for all of these young gay boy's deaths. In life they are mortified to have us as one of the family. In death they can do no better and lie to make it appear as if an unfortunate slip on the ice were to blame for the butchered wrists or the brains blown against the wall behind the bed.

I will soon be announcing a blog that will become what my website Gay Mormon Stories has been in the past. The blog will be a more dynamic way for gay mormons and their families and friends to share their stories. Its focus will be singular; gay mormon stories told firsthand by those who have lived them.

I am no longer willing to sit quietly by. My anger has been rekindled and I am going to start holding mormonism responsible for its brutality against gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and the transgendered. There is no excuse anymore for the wanton destruction of people's lives. This is a cult that does immense harm and I don't care how many billions of dollars they have or how powerful they think they are, this is the end of the ride. This is where the train stops.

If you would like to add your voice to mine and those of many others then feel free to join us. This is not a joke or a moment of ire. Those of you who know me know that I have long been a strong critic of mormonism's treatments of my tribe and that when I put my mind to something the mountain will get moved.

We have given mormonism too much power over this matter. We, by our tacit consent have made it OK for mormonism to continue destroying the lives of our young gay brothers and sisters. We are responsible because we have not spoken up strongly enough or loudly enough and insisted on an end to mormonism's cruelty.

These kids are killing themselves because mormonism teaches them from an early age that they're pieces of shit for being gay. Some of us are strong and some of us aren't. Those of us who aren't so strong need those of us who are strong to step up and speak for them and work tirelessly on their behalf.

We need your voice, we need your strength.

Many years ago in the Hollywood ward I played the organ for a funeral being held by a Tongan family whose young son had been accidentally shot by a friend's gun while cruising around in a car late at night. The family outpouring was unlike anything I'd ever seen - Islanders from all over town and from the islands poured into that chapel for both the funeral and the wake. So many were they that the chapel and overflow could not hold them all. There was a quiet serenity and reverence as the family pulled in close to one another in their grief and their love.

A year later I played the organ yet again for another funeral that was being held in the Hollywood ward for a young gay mormon guy in his twenties who had died of AIDS. There was not one family member there - his casket unadorned by flowers except for a few roses tossed there by some of his friends in Hollywood. I remember asking the bishop where his family was and this wonderful old man looked at me with sad eyes and said there there would be no family in attendance. They were in Salt Lake, a 12 hour drive or an hour and a half flight away. But they weren't going to be there. This was it: a funeral organized by a few friends who knew that their buddy had been mormon and so turned to the ward in Hollywood for the funeral when his family made it clear they wanted nothing more to do with him in death than they had in life.

At the height of the AIDS deaths in the late eighties I made weekly visits to Century City Hospital in Los Angeles where I sat and visited with those who were dying. Often I took my daughter Auri with me and she delighted those whose lives were fast growing dark. I sat on the edge of a bed one day holding the hand of a guy who said he'd been raised mormon. His body was covered with the distinctive marks of Kaposi's Sarcoma. He pointed to the lesions and said to me and my daughter, "I've earned every one of these and I've had a great ride. I'm not dying unhappy. I've had a lot of fun."

When I went to see him the next week he was gone. He died alone in a hospital bed in Los Angeles, his family nowhere to be found.

Mormons have become a cruel people with their condemnation of those of us who are gay. If it were just the condemnation that would be one thing; we walk away and don't have to hear it anymore. But they have taken their condemnation and turned it into a sword that continues so slice away at the sacredness of life even when life is over.

It really is time for all of this to stop. I hope you'll join me in raising your voices and calling on mormons to stop hurting the young gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered in their midst. Please, don't think that I can do this alone. I can't. I need you to step up with me and raise your voice and tell your story and work with me to bring about change.
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Here Is A Loving Piece Of Hate
Tuesday, Aug 4, 2009, at 01:27 PM
Original Author(s): Brailsmt
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
None other than Mormon hero Orson Scott Card penned this beauty.

http://www.nauvoo.com/library/card-hy...

Some great passages:
The Lord asks no more of its members who are tempted toward homosexuality than it does of its unmarried adolescents, its widows and widowers, its divorced members, and its members who never marry.
He is wrong. None of those groups he mentions are forbidden from *ever* having sex with the one they love. The church asks that gay men and women don't even fucking kiss on their "public easement", much less share more intimate moments in more intimate place which are enjoyed by those of us "fortunate" to not be "genetically predisposed" to homosexuality.
The hypocrites of homosexuality are, of course, already preparing to answer these statements by accusing me of homophobia, gay-bashing, bigotry, intolerance; but nothing that I have said here -- and nothing that has been said by any of the prophets or any of the Church leaders who have dealt with this issue -- can be construed as advocating, encouraging, or even allowing harsh personal treatment of individuals who are unable to resist the temptation to have sexual relations with persons of the same sex. On the contrary, the teachings of the Lord are clear in regard to the way we must deal with sinners. Christ treated them with compassion -- as long as they confessed that their sin was a sin. Only when they attempted to pretend that their sin was righteousness did he harshly name them for what they were: fools, hypocrites, sinners. Hypocrites because they were unwilling to change their behavior and instead attempted to change the law to fit it; fools because they thought that deceiving an easilydeceivable society would achieve the impossible goal of also deceiving God.
This is where I begin to lose my stomach. The mere term "hypocrites of homosexuality" is loaded with bigotry. Much less calling genetics irrelevant to our decisions as he states in the article.

I mean, I know we should not be surprised anymore by the church's stance on issues, but it never ceases to amaze me how hateful they are, while trying to appear loving and compassionate. (HINT: Saying you are loving and compassionate doesn't make it so, and attempting to preempt criticism, doesn't invalidate the criticism.) I guess the only logical conclusion is that Orson Scott Card is an asshole pawn in the church's failing stance on social issues.

I'll not be reading any more OSC novels.
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BYU Electro-Shock Therapy: I Confirmed Tonight That Not Only Gay Males Were Targeted
Monday, Aug 17, 2009, at 08:02 AM
Original Author(s): Sl Cabbie
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
As members, weren't we all told we had the right to personal revelation? In fact aren't we Required to have it. I think the quote was that each person is expected to receive revelation. Joseph said so as well.

But as in Josephs day, personal revelation gets messy. Next thing you know, JS has a revelation that only he can receive it. As members, we were counseled that it could only be from God if it aligned with the leadership. Yet we have seen leadership stumble time and time again from the EQP to the Prophet.

When JS decided to sell the copyright to the BoM in Canada, the venture failed (probably due to the horrendous grammar and spelling) and he said that some revelations are of God, some are of Man, and some are of the Devil. What this translated to is that only if it matches the leadership of the day, then it is of God. It also leads to much personal confusion; What if I am wrong? Did Satan deceive me? Did I not hear when God spoke? Am I right or wrong? (cue pulling of hair).

I think that in the church, the concept of personal revelation has been watered down to mere sustaining of the Priesthood. Agreeing with them means you are receiving revelation confirming their words. Any different feeling is from the devil. Those who support the church no matter the cost believe that God is inspiring them to follow and sacrifice.

So back to Nick, and even Grant Palmer, Fawn Brodie, the Internet and human intelligence- what if the work against the church is actually inspiration from God? Surely the church can be proven false on every front from contradictory and patently false scripture to practices that harm people, and as such, God should be inspiring people to thwart it.
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Mormon Owned Deseret News Rejects Ad For Memorial Service For LGBT Suicide Victims
Friday, Oct 2, 2009, at 08:07 AM
Original Author(s): Rebekah
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
An ad for a memorial service for LDS LGBT suicide victims was rejected by the Deseret News because the LDS Church determined it could not run after the ad had originally been accepted and had been paid for.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_13464697?IAD...

The memorial service which is being sponsored by The Foundation For Reconciliation (http://www.ldsApology.org) features a wide variety of Mormons, from a former mission president who is still very active in the church, to Mormons who have left the church. The common thread is a desire to raise awareness about how the LGBT community has been impacted by teachings and practices of the LDS Church.

Will Swenson, known for his roles in Sons of Provo and Singles Ward, now starring in "Hair" on Broadway has narrated a short video for the Memorial Service. A teaser for this video can be seen here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fH3k3...

The video is also available on the ldsapology.org website right at the top of the page if you like one stop shopping.

It seems like the Church is no longer making any attempt to look nice. Elder Hafen's talk, the signs on the Main Street Plaza, it just goes on and on. I wonder if they are just planning to let their real feelings hang out transparent to everyone. That would probably be good. People would not be in the least confused about whether the church is at all compassionate to gays or not. Too bad for gay LDS people who love their faith. It is so painful for them to be rejected like this. It makes me really sad.
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Court Of Love?
Friday, Aug 27, 2010, at 09:20 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
I grew up in a small town in Utah. My father was in the bishopric until I was eight years old. He was a highway patrolman and was shot. After that my family was always in Salt Lake City for the weekends. We became inactive.

I knew before that time that I was different from all the other boys my age. They were out playing ball and other boy things and I wanted to dress up and play with my sister's toys. When I was 13 or 14 I knew I was gay but tried my best to suppress it. I decided that I had to go back to church and God would take care of it. So off I went. At 19 years of age I went on a mission, I prayed and prayed I could change. I knew God would help me if I went on a mission. Of course that didn't happen so like a fool I thought if I got married in the temple I would be able to change. So I got married, didn't help but did try. Had three kids who I love very much. My kids are now adults ages 18 - 22.

Two years ago I found out that one of the missionaries that I knew on my mission in Switzerland and France is also gay. I happened to be going to San Diego to run a marathon and thought I would look him up. Well one thing lead to another and after a divorce and the pain of telling my kids, he and I are together and have been for a year.

When I told my ex-wife, (she alway suspected), she thought it was a great idea to tell her best friend who happened to be in our ward. Needless to say, within an hour everyone in the ward knew. She also found it nessecary to tell the Bishop and Stake President. I was first called in to see the Bishop and he had me see the SP. The SP had me go to family services where I was told that be gay is a choice. I told the guy I had no choice and he told me that since I couldn't listen to reason he couldn't help me.

I talked to the SP a few more time over the next month and a Court was scheduled for me. I was told that I would feel love and compassion in the tribunal and that he thought I would leave with those feelings. Well, I showed up and on one side of a long table were those who would question me and on the other were those looking out for my well being, making sure that I was treated with love and respect.

I sit and a barrage of questions comes at me. A couple of the HP were rude and mean. Nobody on "my" side said anything. The Stake Presidency just sat there and listened. I told them over and over that I was not going to stop having sex with my boyfriend. After about an hour and a half of them prying into my life and being disrespectful I was excused and they deliberated. Then the Stake Presidency went and made the final decision. Before going back into the courtroom the SP told me that as they were praying they had a vision...yes a vision...and it was revealed to them in this VISION that if I continued seeing this man that my daughter would disown me and would never let me see my grandchildren. To this I just laughed to myself, my daughter, when I told her I am gay said to me, "oh, I just thought you were metro." She is the most supportive daughter anyone could have and calls my "husband" Daddy number 2. She lives with us and loves my man. Then and there it was confirmed to me what I already knew. These werenot men of God.

Getting back in the courtroom the SP had me stand as he told me that I was excommunicated. That was the best I had felt all night. He told me I could not wear garments, I hadn't for a year of so anyway, but that I was welcome to go to church. Yeah, that was going to happen. He was about to excuse me when I asked to say something. He told me to go ahead.

This is when I said that I was told that I was going to be treated with love and respect and there was a side that was going to make sure this happened. I said that is all I felt in there are hate and disrespect. That no one ever said a word to these people who were being mean and rude. The rudest one piped in and said, "do you want to know why we treated you that way?" I looked him in the eye and said "NO!!!" got up and walked out. When I was walking out I heard the SP tell them not to move that he wanted to talk to them after. I can only imagine what he said....probably, good job.

I have never been happier in my life being out of that church.
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LDS Children's Book On "Overcoming Homosexuality" Finds A Home On Walmart Shelves
Monday, Oct 11, 2010, at 08:53 AM
Original Author(s): Lgbtq Nation
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
More than 100 WalMart stores in the Intermountain West are stocking a new children's book aimed at Mormon families to help in overcoming homosexuality.

Chased by an Elephant: The Gospel Truth About Today's Stampeding Sexuality, was authored by Janice Barrett Graham, wife of Stephen Graham, President of the anti-gay organization, Standard of Liberty - an LDS-oriented educational foundation. Their site: http://standardofliberty.org/

Janice Graham said she wrote Chased by an Elephant to "help shed the clear light of truth on today's dark and tangled ideas about male and female, proper gender roles, the law of chastity, and the God-given sexual appetite," according to the book's introduction.

She writes:
"The number of our young people involved in sexual sins has greatly increased in recent years. Some of the most stalwart-seeming youth find themselves involved in pornography, fornication, promiscuity, homosexuality, and the like,"
The book, published in May, concludes that counseling, truth and accepting Jesus is the path to over coming homosexuality.

On a recent blog post, "Beware the Gay Suicide Card," (http://standardoflibertyblog.blogspot...) Janice Graham offered her own theory on hearing over and over that gays commit suicide if they aren't accepted by their family or church:
"Could it be that there are hidden factors at work that contribute to gay youth suicides?" she asked.

"How about encouragement to adopt a popularized but unnatural sexual label? How about addiction to soul-killing same-sex pornography? How about being introduced by adults to behaviors too heinous to mention in polite society? How about being told they are forever homosexual and thinking they will never have a normal family life?"
The Grahams claim that their son, Andrew, resisted homosexual urges and is now living happily as an "ex-gay" man.

The deal to stock Chased by an Elephant at WalMart was arranged by Brigham Distributing and announced on Standard of Liberty's website. The book is also available for order on Barnes & Noble, Borders and Amazon websites.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2010/10/ld...
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Electro-Shock "Therapy" At BYU On Gay Men And Women
Tuesday, Oct 12, 2010, at 02:34 PM
Original Author(s): Tahoe Girl
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Every few months I post these videos for those who aren't yet familiar with the shock "therapy" that was done on gay men and lesbian women in a basement on the BYU campus to try and get them to stop being gay. This continues to horrify me. I'm so embarrassed to admit that I was attending BYU during the time that this was going on. Of course I didn't know about it, but it's awful for me to think that this was going on in a building in which I had classes and church.

This torture went on for 15-20 years and was performed on teen and adult men and women. Horrific.

We need to keep getting the word out about the atrocities of the mormon church.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUTVQ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-8Bm...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeMKmn...
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At That Very Moment That I Finally And Forever Understood Bigotry And It’s Power To Destroy
Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010, at 08:26 AM
Original Author(s): Sldrone
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
I wrote this essay several years ago shortly after being released as a mission president. Packer's recent remarks and the subsequent backlash motivate me to bring it out for another run.

The phone rang late one night. My wife answered it and shook me with some urgency, something about one of the elders really needs you. Rising from the fog of sleep and forcing myself to pass into consciousness I mumbled a groggy hello. “President, it’s over. I can’t I just can’t …… I think you need to send me home”, he nearly yelled into the phone. His despair quite apparent. “What’s wrong elder, what has happened”, I was suddenly very much awake. “President, I’m GAY ok? I’m GAY! I thought Heavenly Father would fix me if I was a good missionary. I’ve done everything I can, but it’s just getting worse. Why am I like this? What did I do? It’s not fair. I need to go home”.

“Elder, bring your companion and catch the early express train. It get’s here about 9:00 AM. I’ll send your comp with one of my AP’s and we’ll go have breakfast. Don’t worry elder, don’t panic, it will be ok”, I said. He started to cry and agreed to meet me. He was a great missionary, one of my best., and a wonderful person. My heart ached, I never fell back to sleep that night.

Over breakfast in a quiet European sidewalk café he told me he’d known from a very early age that he had an attraction to the same sex. He’d never acted on it, in fact had gone out of his way to date young women, and yet there it was. Constantly gnawing at his desire, men catching his attention. We talked into the afternoon. I helped him to understand that this was not something he had chosen, Neither was it punishment for some sin. It simply is the way it is. He did have a choice though, His choice was whom or what would have his allegiance. He could be true to himself, or he could be true to his religion. I didn’t see how he could do both.

Although Mormonism has made some progress, it has not arrived at the point of embracing it’s sexually active homosexual members. The two concepts are mutually exclusive. I didn’t at the time know which choice was best. Both choices seemed to have their pros and cons. He began to sob, his body convulsing. I put my arms around him and held him until he regained his composure. I told him I loved him. I felt his tears soak through the fabric of my shirt and onto my shoulder, the tenseness of his body ridged with pain. He cried and with each tear he seemed to release years of pain, of hiding, of shame and self loathing. He’d endured a lot to cover his secret. Why? It made me angry that he or anyone should have to endure such meaningless anguish. It was then and there at that very moment that I finally and forever understood bigotry and it’s power to destroy.

What kinds of gods do people create, so often full of hatred, anger and bigotry? Members of the LDS faith were once persecuted, hated and driven from their homes, in part by other religious zealots repulsed by unconventional “marriages.” Now, come full circle, the once-bullied have joined themselves with the bullies in the voice of bigotry as they battle their boogeymen.

American youths and innocent civilians continue to die in an unjustifiable war. Greed leads to world wide financial collapse. Millions of innocents die of still uncured viruses. Religion- and ethnic-induced hatreds rage worldwide. Poverty runs amok and the poor starve. Yet when the Mormon God speaks, he speaks out against two people who love each other and want to express that love in a committed formal way.

I imagine a day will come when the LDS Church will regret lending its support to a failed constitutional amendment that did nothing more than divide a nation and rally bigoted and frightened people to the ballot box. The attempt to amend the constitution of the United States failed, attempts in individual states are faltering on issues of constitutionality, Utah and it’s Mormon theocracy would still march forward, reaching out to hate someone. Mormon leaders continue even today in the crusade against the rights and pursuit of happiness of those they fear and misunderstand.

There is a parallel with the way the LDS Church today marginalizes the gay community much as it once marginalized the black community. To previous generations of Mormons, blacks were descendants of Cain and less valiant in their pre-mortal days, a lower class. I wonder what future prophet will become enlightened as to the fact that all are equal in the eyes of a just creator? Who or whatever that may be.
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Inspired Words From LDS Apostles
Monday, Oct 25, 2010, at 08:16 AM
Original Author(s): Michaelm
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Dallin Oaks spoke that gay rights are "newly alleged" civil rights. Applying his words to the following recent incident (non-LDS), the rights of two human beings were only "alleged". Their home was burned and they lost everything -

http://www.metropulse.com/news/2010/s...
"They moved here from Oklahoma to enjoy the mountain community atmosphere and the low cost of living. Verbal threats from one neighbor began almost immediately, and continued off and on for years. “One threat that was made over and over was, ‘We take care of things the hillbilly way, and a lot of bodies have never been found in these hills,’” remembers Carol Ann."
While Oaks has alleged that the LDS suffer backlash for their stance on morality, his counterpart Boyd K. Packer has in fact advocated violence against gays.

http://www.affirmation.org/news/2000_...

Of particular concern is the recent re-release of the pamphlet To Young Men Only which admonishes young LDS men to "protect themselves" by physically assaulting gays when confronted with their homosexuality. This was re-released at the same time as the Matthew Shepard murder trials. Very few people in the LDS Church are aware that one of the two young men convicted of Matthew Shepard's beating death was a young Mormon Priesthood holder.

Here are the inspired words of Boyd K. Packer -
After patient encouragement he finally blurted out, "I hit my companion."

"Oh, is that all," I said in great relief.

"But I floored him," he said.

After learning a little more, my response was "Well, thanks. Somebody had to do it, and it wouldn't be well for a General Authority to solve the problem that way"

I am not recommending that course to you, but I am not omitting it. You must protect yourself.
http://www.lds-mormon.com/only.shtml

It wouldn't be well for an apostle to hit someone, but its acceptable for an apostle to say that it has to be done. Nice words of inspiration from an apostle.

Boyd K. Packer: To beat a gay is acceptable. To beat your meat is a sin.
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Homosexuality In The 2010 CHI
Thursday, Nov 11, 2010, at 09:41 AM
Original Author(s): Loydo38
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The new 2010 Mormon CHI has some small but important changes from the 2006 version in its section on homosexuality. Deletions are in strikeout. Additions are in [italics].
Homosexual behavior violates the commandments of God, is contrary to the purposes of human sexuality, distorts loving relationships, and deprives people of the blessings that can be found in family life and in the saving ordinances of the gospel. Those who persist in such behavior or who influence others to do so are subject to Church discipline. Homosexual behavior can be forgiven through sincere repentance.

If members have homosexual thoughts or feelings or engage in homosexual behavior, Church leaders should help them have a clear understanding of faith in Jesus Christ, the process of repentance, and the purpose of life on earth. Leaders also should help them accept responsibility for their thoughts and actions and apply gospel principles in their lives.

While opposing homosexual behavior, the Church reaches out to understanding and respect to individuals who are attracted to those of the same gender. [This was moved from being the 2nd to 3rd paragraph]

In addition to the inspired assistance of Church leaders, members may need professional counseling. When appropriate, bishops should contact LDS Social Services to identify resources to provide such counseling in harmony with gospel principles.

If members feel same-gender attraction but do not engage in any homosexual behavior, leaders should support and encourage them in their resolve to live the law of chastity and to control unrighteous thoughts. These members may receive Church callings. If they are worthy and qualified in every other way, they may also hold temple recommends and receive temple ordinances.
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LGBT Mormons - Being True To One's Self
Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011, at 08:00 AM
Original Author(s): Sldrone
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
A few years ago I wrote about my experiences as a mission president counseling with a particular gay elder. Parts of the essay that I wrote and posted here even appeared as an editorial piece I wrote for the Salt Lake Trib. I was proud of that article and I believe it provoked introspection and maybe even softened a few hearts. I was thrilled to have been contacted by Eric Ethington, a gay activist in SLC who used parts of my writing on his own website prideinutah.com.

There is an end to the story, at least as far as leads to present day, and so here is the completed report. If you've already read the first part, scroll to the last few paragraphs for the rest of the story.

What Sorts of Gods do Men Create?

The phone rang late one night. My wife answered it and shook me with some urgency, something about one of the elders really needs you. Rising from the fog of sleep and forcing myself to pass into consciousness I mumbled a groggy hello.

“President, it’s over. I can’t I just can’t …… I think you need to send me home”, he nearly yelled into the phone. His despair quite apparent.

“What’s wrong elder, what has happened”, I was suddenly very much awake.

“President, I’m GAY ok? I’m GAY! I thought Heavenly Father would fix me if I was a good missionary. I’ve done everything I can, but it’s just getting worse. Why am I like this? What did I do? It’s not fair. I need to go home”.

“Elder, bring your companion and catch the early express train. It get’s here about 9:00 AM. I’ll send your comp with one of my AP’s and we’ll go have breakfast. Don’t worry elder, don’t panic, it will be ok”, I said.

He started to cry and agreed to meet me. He was a great missionary, one of my best., and a wonderful person. My heart ached, I never fell back into sleep that night.

Over breakfast in a quiet European sidewalk café he told me he’d known from a very early age that he had an attraction to the same sex. He’d never acted on it, in fact had gone out of his way to date young women, and yet there it was. Constantly gnawing at his desire, men catching his attention. We talked into the afternoon. I helped him to understand that this was not something he had chosen, Neither was it punishment for some sin. It simply is the way it is. He did have a choice though, His choice was whom or what would have his allegiance. He could be true to himself, or he could be true to his religion. I didn’t see how he could do both. Although Mormonism has made some progress, it has not arrived at the point of embracing it’s sexually active homosexual members. The two concepts are mutually exclusive. I didn’t at the time know which choice was best. Both choices seemed to have their pros and cons. He began to sob, his body convulsing.

I put my arms around him and held him until he regained his composure. I told him I loved him. I felt his tears soak through the fabric of my shirt and onto my shoulder, the tenseness of his body ridged with pain. He cried and with each tear he seemed to release years of pain, of hiding, of shame and self loathing. He’d endured a lot to cover his secret. Why? It made me angry that he or anyone should have to endure such meaningless anguish. It was then and there at that very moment that I finally and forever understood bigotry and it’s power to destroy.

What kinds of gods do people create, so often full of hatred, anger and bigotry? Members of the LDS faith were once persecuted, hated and driven from their homes, in part by other religious zealots repulsed by unconventional “marriages.” Now, come full circle, the once-bullied have joined themselves with the bullies in the voice of bigotry as they battle their boogeymen.

He had about six months to go to finish his mission. He was a life long Mormon and loved the Church and the gospel. I transferred him to an assignment near me and we talked frequently. I did some research and found an organization in Salt Lake called Affirmation, which is a group of LGBT Mormons. He did some reading on their site as well. Ultimately I felt that the Affirmation group was more an exercise in futility and that my original advice to him was correct, which was in essence one or the other, not both. He felt the same way.

By the end of his mission he'd decided to leave the Church, a decision which I both supported and thought best for him. His exit interview was one of the most incredible and unique experiences of my life as we discussed best practices and strategies for mapping his life and leaving his faith. I could see in his eyes an intense sadness and I knew he would grieve for the loss of his faith and all it had meant to him in his 21 years. Once again the irony of a Church professing love and yet creating such an untenable and cruel crossroads was not lost to me.

I grew to love this young man and respect him immensely for his integrity and courage. I drove him to the airport and we talked right up until he walked onto the plane, all the while he was steeling his resolve. At the gate he gave me a hug and told me he loved me, I told him I loved him too, and then I said "courage". His face hardened. Although we've spoken on the phone many times since, it was the last time I would see him, I suspected that and I knew I would miss him. I handed him his coat, he let out a sigh and stepped into a brave new world.

He returned home to his family and immediately took steps to let them know of his decision. There was some initial push back, and anger, some of which was even directed in a letter back to me. But eventually his parents educated themselves on the topic, became more enlightened and embraced their out and proud son with open arms.

He now is living in Texas with his boyfriend/partner of about 6 years. He is living true to himself and he is content, all is right and it is good.h
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Man Fired From LDS Church For Refusing To Give Up Gay Friends
Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011, at 11:32 AM
Original Author(s): Jesse Fruhwirth
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
From City Weekly:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ official policy is to accept gay people as members of the church so long as they take what is, in essence, a vow of chastity. But one Salt Lake City man, a church employee for more than a decade, is surprised and angered that he lost his temple recommend–a prerequisite for employment in the church–after he refused to give up his gay friends and was fired.

Drew Call, 32, a returned missionary who is gay, was a supervisor in the church’s printing department until March 7. At a February private meeting with his Salt Lake City stake president–who declined to be interviewed–Call says he was asked to abandon his gay friends as a condition for renewal of his temple recommend. Surprised and fearing people may not believe him, Call surreptitiously made an audio recording of the follow-up meeting in March so there could be no doubt about what happened.

“I want people to know that [the LDS Church] is targeting people unfairly,” Call says. “I do believe they wronged me.”
http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/articl...
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What Is Truth: Gays, Believers And Apostates
Tuesday, Mar 29, 2011, at 07:28 AM
Original Author(s): Invictus Pilgrim
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
As has been pointed out by numerous commenters throughout the (relatively short) life of my blog (at http://invictuspilgrim.blogspot.com), a gay (active/post/ex-/inactive/anything in between) Mormon’s relationship to the LDS Church is often complicated. The reason for this should be obvious (but perhaps isn’t to many members of the Church). Many gay Mormons (I use this term to refer to any gay person who is or has been a member of the LDS Church) go through intense agony as a result of trying to remain true to what they have been taught, true to what they believe, yet true at the same time to themselves.

This post is substantially similar to a (media-enhanced) post I published today on my blog that constitutes the eighth and final letter to “Anonymous.” I started the series of letters after “Anonymous” posted a comment on my blog that basically posed the question of whether I thought it was “worth it” to “give up my exaltation” in order to come out and live the rest of my life as a gay man. Even though Anonymous subsequently identified himself as “Bryan”, I continued to address the letters to Anonymous because I thought the premises of Bryan’s comments were similar to those shared by many anonymous members of the LDS Church.

Where Gay Mormons Are “At”

After going through the trauma of coming to accept who and what they are, gay Mormons often end up at very different places on the spectrum of Mormon belief, from desiring to retain full affiliation with the Church to complete rejection of not only the Church but any belief in God, period. In between these two extremes are many, many places where gay Mormons find themselves, either temporarily or permanently or somewhere in-between.

Many gay Mormons would choose to remain in the Church if they could. But most feel driven out, either explicitly or implicitly, feeling that they simply cannot stay in a place where they are not welcome. (I should probably state, by the way, that I in no way purport to speak for all gay Mormons.)

And it is not only gays who are or feel driven out; in many instances, straight members of their family, such as their parents, feel they can no longer affiliate with a church that condemns their children. I have personally listened to long-standing “stalwart” members of the Church declare with sincerity and conviction that they can no longer affiliate with a Church that condemns their son or their daughter. I heard, just this past Sunday, such a member ask at a gathering how any gay or lesbian could possibly desire to remain active in a Church that condemns and rejects people because of their sexuality.

At the same gathering, however, I heard another stalwart couple express their love for and desire to remain active in the Church, while at the same time acknowledging that the journey they have been on (presumably because of a gay son or lesbian daughter) has opened their minds and hearts to things they couldn’t have previously imagined. It shouldn’t need to be said, but I will point out that both of these scenarios involve extremely painful journeys that are almost as traumatic as those experienced by their gay loved ones.

Of course, there are many who would say that the Church doesn’t drive anyone out; people choose to leave, or they are asked to leave because their lives are not in harmony with the teachings and commandments of the Church; the Church does not ask people to leave or take away “privileges” (e.g., temple recommends [see http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-13533-man-fired-from-lds-church-for-refusing-to-give-up-gay-friends.html]) simply because they are gay.

The truth, however, is that it does. And despite what the headquarters of the Church teaches, the fact of the matter is that gay members of the Church are “handled” differently from ward to ward and stake to stake, depending on the attitudes and personalities of bishops and stake presidents. Some bishops and stake presidents are very tolerant and loving of gays; others, less so. That’s just the way it is. Which kind of says something not only about the ability of Church Headquarters to effect change at a local level but also about the conflicting “inspiration” that these various local church leaders receive concerning the same issues.

Alternative Approaches

So, what happens after gays are driven out of the Church, one way or the other? They end up at these various places on the spectrum of belief and participation. But, as Pablo, a commenter on my blog, pointed out, “… deciding to leave the church behind is not the path to outer darkness that some in the Church believe it to be. Mormons still grappling with their views about gay people might find some unexpected enlightenment if they open, ever so slightly, the blinds that Mormon culture so often and so unfortunately places on the windows of the church and the homes of its members.”

They might learn, for example, about couples such as Trey and his partner. “I have a very loving, supportive, joy-filled relationship – with a man,” Trey wrote last week. “To you [Anonymous] that may appear repugnant. Our relationship is every much as beautiful as the best “love-at-home” Mormon family. We pray together, we go to church together; we live in harmony and mutual support. We feel God’s love and acceptance. LDS people think they have a monopoly on spirituality and on God’s blessings and acceptance. They generally have no idea concerning the breadth of God’s love.”

They might also learn that many gays have ended up in a place similar to that where many straight Mormons are found, i.e., a place that recognizes the difference between the “Gospel of Jesus Christ” and the “Church.” Without getting into a tit-for-tat discussion that would not be useful, suffice it to say that many Mormon gays believe in the “Gospel,” but not so much in the Church.

For example, a gay Mormon who is still active in the Church wrote in a comment: “I believe that when the Book of Mormon says that men are that they might have joy, it is speaking truth, both for this life as well as for eternity. As a gay man once married to a wonderful straight woman, raising tremendous children, serving in a variety of Church leadership positions, I never understood what joy was. I had happy moments, but in my trial never felt the joy that the Gospel is intended to bring. Since divorcing and actually being true to who I am [a gay man], I have amazingly experienced a fullness of joy EVERY day–joy so profound it often causes me to tremble with gratitude for a Father who loves me for who and what I am and is willing to share His Spirit with me in a profound and immutable way.

“ … It is so easy to live in a world constructed of cultural norms that is in reality antithetical to the teachings of the Gospel of Christ. Because it is easy, too many members of the Church choose to live in such a world of blacks and whites rather than a world of sunshine and rainbows as Heavenly Father intended. I’m grateful that God led me into a world of color and with it, a world of boundless joy.”


The Apostate Label: Argumentum ad hominem

Anonymous, the person to whom I was addressing my letters, stated on three separate occasions in follow-up comments that he wouldn’t have bothered posing his initial question if he had believed that I don’t believe “the LDS Church is the Lord’s true Church,” if I “disbelieve the Church,” or “believe the LDS Church to [not] be correct. After all, he wrote, if such were the case, I would “have no problem going against [the Church’s] teachings and will likely not believe [I’m] giving anything up by doing so.”

On the surface, these comments by Anonymous seem, in a (very generous) way, fair and reasonable enough. But something lurks beneath the surface – at least in my view. For one thing, he wasn’t quite sure where I was “at” with respect to the Church, and it appears he was intrigued by the concept of me being “believing”, yet still embracing homosexuality, and he wanted to try to “flush me out”.

Far more insidious, however, is the apparent attitude that believes that if someone is “apostate” – i.e., they no longer believe “the LDS Church is the Lord’s true Church,” or “disbelieves the Church” or “believes the LDS Church to [not] be correct,” then anything that person says, no matter how articulate, well-reasoned or substantiated by real experience, anything that person says can be dismissed as being tainted by apostasy; in other words, a classic ad hominem attack. In the Mormon world, if one can label a person on the other side of an argument an “apostate,” then the argument is over, so far as “faithful” members of the Church are concerned. Such an attitude is, unfortunately, all too common within the Church today.

But, just for the sake of argument, let’s consider his words for a moment. I assume that what he meant by his questions is, do I believe the LDS Church to be “true,” meaning, presumably, the only true and living church on the face of the earth with which the Lord is well-pleased. Or did he mean that the Church is the vessel of true principles? Or did he mean that the Church is the only organization that possesses, through the priesthood, the authority to act in the name of God? Or did he mean that what the Church teaches is “correct,” whereas other churches teach that which is incorrect? What does it mean to say that the Church’s teachings on homosexuality are correct or incorrect? Does that mean, do they reflect ultimate Truth?

Like I told Anonymous, I don’t mean to be facetious; I’m simply trying to make a point:

“What is truth?”


Conclusion

There is a term that is used in the LDS Church. Other Christians use it, too, but to them it means something a little different that what it means to Mormons. The term: the Pearl of Great Price. In the Mormon world, one tends to use it with reference to a volume of LDS scripture or as a reference to the “restored Gospel,” usually in the context of someone converting to the Church and “accepting” the “restored Gospel.”

Christians, however, typically refer to the term in context of a parable of the Savior: one must actively seek in life for that which is of supreme value (the pearl), and when one has found it, one must leave behind or sell everything one has accumulated to that point and purchase or obtain the pearl, which is extremely precious and costly. In the narrowest sense, for most Christians, the “pearl” is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but Jesus Christ himself.

I would like to apply this parable to my own situation as a gay man who has finally come to terms with his sexuality. I have sought long and hard throughout my life for a “cure” for being gay, until I finally found the “pearl of great price” – the same pearl that others like me have found. What is this pearl? A knowledge and joyful acceptance – independent of any man, church or creed – of who I am and who I was created to be, together with the sure knowledge that God loves me and accepts me just the way I am.

“Any life, no matter how long and complex it may be,
is made up of a single moment,
the moment in which a man finds out,
once and for all,
who he is.”


- Kahlil Gibran

http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2011/0...
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A Mormon Lesbian's Journey To Finding Herself
Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011, at 08:04 AM
Original Author(s): Mari Burningham
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
At 18 months old I could dribble a basketball with either hand and behind my back. My mom, who was a high school coach, used to take me out at center court for halftime and let me do my thing to the cheers of the crowd. The court and performing became my world, the one place where I felt comfortable and accepted and like I belonged to society as a whole and it started there for me at a very young age.

As I got older, I realized that I was different because I was attracted to women, but in sports I was safe and it has always been my haven and outlet. I knew even from a very early age that my thoughts and feelings were something to be hidden and ignored. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints or Mormon to most people. I am related to something like 12 prophets of our church including Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith. I even have an old polygamy family photo hanging on my wall. Needless to say, when you grow up reading the Book of Mormon and it is filled with your relatives, you figure out quickly that it is important to fit in and do as you should.

When I returned from playing with the USA Youth National Team in Mexico the summer before my senior year in high school (1995), I had my first real sexual experience with a woman. She was older than me and it was extremely intense. I felt things that I had never felt before with a man and it both scared and excited me. For the first time being with someone didn't feel forced or like a part I had to play. It was a very dangerous relationship for me because I was a very well known and a public Mormon female athlete in Utah. I was with her almost two years and the whole time I tried to convince myself that it was just her and it wouldn't happen again with another woman.

I was recruited by more than 200 schools for both volleyball and basketball. In the end I chose UCLA, where I became a two-sport student-athlete playing volleyball and basketball. I couldn't wait to get out of the "Mormon Bubble" and be free.

I had teammates on my basketball team at UCLA who were openly gay, but I still wasn't ready to come out. It was so strange to see people open and talking about it. I secretly envied them and admired them. My time at UCLA was brief however; I transferred after one year because I didn't want to continue to play basketball in college and wanted to just concentrate on volleyball; it was my passion and because my body couldn't handle playing two sports in college anymore.

So I did what any good budding lesbian would do -- I transferred to Ricks College, now BYU-Idaho. When I found out it was a LDS school, I tried desperately to get out of going. I had my endorsement meeting with my Bishop, which is required to attend, and I told him that I did all sorts of things against the Honor Code and planned on continuing to do them and he smiled and gave me the endorsement anyway, saying it would be good for me. I was probably as mad as I've ever been.

At Ricks, I ended up playing briefly my first year because my legs were atrophying and I was in a lot of pain. I had blown another disc at UCLA late in my volleyball season and had ignored it to the point of almost landing myself in a wheelchair. The current Prophet, President Thomas Monson, was a family friend and gave me a personal blessing in his office to heal me and give me comfort. I remember thinking that he'd touch me and know what I felt in my heart and he'd be so repulsed that he'd demand me to leave his office. But he had no idea and I must admit it was disappointing. It would have been nice to have my deep dark secret out in the open and it would have strengthened my faith in our church that our church leaders were in tune and were instruments of the Savior here on earth.

Instead, I walked away wondering if these were true men of God or if God just didn't care if I was gay. So as a sophomore in college, I had my second disc fusion of L4-L5 and was out the entire year. The next year I was so excited to play again after sitting out a year but the administration had other plans for me. They wanted to kick me out of school for violating the Honor Code and not attending church the year before. I begged and pleaded and with a few requirements placed on me I was allowed to stay and play. I had to agree to go to church every Sunday and to attend all the meetings. Our church is three of the longest hours you've ever endured. I had to read my scriptures daily and follow the Honor Code.

Like everything else in my life, I dove in wholeheartedly and sought out the only return missionary I knew to assist me in my scripture studies, our assistant coach. We read scriptures together every day and I asked many questions about what we read. We became best friends, which turned into dating which turned into being engaged. If I could be straight for any man it would have been him. He was my best friend, good looking and an honorable man.

Marriage trauma

After a year of working with my bishop to make myself worthy to go to the temple, we married in July 1998 in the Salt Lake Temple just like my parents. Before we were married we went to my hometown temple in Logan, Utah, to get my endowments. This is where you perform sacred covenants and receive those special underwear garments. Before you can be sealed for all time and eternity in the sealing rooms in the temple you must have your endowments ceremony done. The inside of the temple is a very beautiful, inspiring and spiritual place. To me it was like I'd stepped into the deepest, darkest, most foul and evil hole you can imagine. Though everything looked as it should on the outside, what I felt while in the temple in the inside was indescribably bad. I was having a near panic attack the entire time. I wanted to scream, tear the temple clothes from my body and never enter a temple again in my life.

I somehow managed to make it through the ceremony and into the celestial room. I sat there, amongst my family and my fiancé and I broke down and started to sob. Everyone thought it was because I was so touched by getting my endowments and being moved by the spirit. I was so scared and I felt so awful being in that place that I couldn't take it anymore.

It was so bad that I wasn't going to marry my husband in the temple if I was required to go back there. It was decided that we wouldn't do another full session but that I would be moved directly from the temple chapel to the sealing room and directly from the sealing room to the celestial room and then out of there. Once again, I was filled with a sense of evil and blackness just walking into the doors. I was able to enjoy the actual sealing ceremony, but upon leaving the sealing room that awful feeling returned. I got out of the temple and vowed never to return.

Over the course of a few months, I spent a lot of time pondering why I had that feeling and reaction to the temple, the place where we are supposed to feel the spirit the most. My first reaction was that I had not been truly worthy. I quickly discounted that. I knew I had done the painstaking work and had felt ready in my heart. I had given up all my vices and been chaste and I had worked hard to put the thought of women from my mind.

Then I thought it was because of the strangeness of it all. I thought it would have been more special, inspired and less like an assembly line. When I was given my special name I found out that everyone on that day received the same special name. How can that be special? Then there were the secret handshakes and combinations and weird ritualistic stuff. I had been warned and prepped for them but nothing can quite prepare you what you actually see and do.

I was disappointed because it felt like secret handshakes and combinations went against what we were taught in church in the Bible and Book of Mormon, yet we had them all. Even my disillusionment didn't seem to warrant the extremely intense bad feeling I had in the temple. I inquired with President Monson about it. I figured if anyone would be able to give me some guidance and comfort it would be him. He asked some questions on the phone with me and then directed me to his friend, the president of the Timpanogos Temple. I met with him one night, late, past regular hours at his office like it was a clandestine mission.

He asked me the same questions President Monson had asked: Did anyone treat me poorly or meanly? Did anyone touch me inappropriately? Did anyone say anything that offended me or made me feel bad? I answered no to all these things. Then he told me that "this happens a lot and only to women. We don't know why and we can't figure it out." He said that there are women who are in their late 80s and 90s who had never gone back to the temple since they first went in their late teens or early 20's. He said we all described basically the same things and that for those of us who felt that way we could serve our church and the Savior in other ways outside of temple work.

Off I went to BYU with my husband. I was given a basketball scholarship and played volleyball and basketball in college once again. I kept myself very busy when I was a student-athlete at BYU. I not only played two sports but I also volunteered for every sort of committee through the Student Athlete Advisory Committee. I also spoke at countless firesides for the youth of the church. I was awarded the prestigious Floyd Johnson Service Award. Everything in my life was a constant reminder of the lie I was telling myself.

It became even harder when I started to notice that there were other student-athletes like me. Most were in denial as well and struggling to live the life we were taught we should live. I became aware of a handful of student-athletes who were secretly participating in homosexual relationships. Though I tried to help them according to our religious beliefs, I was secretly very envious of them and wanted desperately to do as they were doing. It was a constant reminder of that which I longed for with every fiber of my being but denied myself so I could live up to the expectations of the church, society and the marriage I was in.

After graduating from BYU with a degree in Sociology in 2000 I dove into coaching. I coached as many teams as I could, I attended many local coaching clinics and spent a lot of time at coaching seminars and clinics with USA Volleyball. I found coaching still gave me that athletic avenue where I could still be a part of sports and live in the sanctuary that sports had always been to me. It was through my participation in sports that I had defined myself and used as my identity and in coaching I could maintain that. I excelled and I truly loved coaching.

In 2002 I was hired as an assistant volleyball coach at BYU, a Top 20 program. At first I was hopeful for myself and my situation. I saw around me members of the athletic department that were also closeted. I thought that if so many men and women could live for so long according to our religious beliefs then I would be able to as well. It gave me hope that things would work out and that things would get easier. I remained a faithful and devoted member.

Over the course of my two years as an assistant coach however I started to see the misery and hypocrisy of those at BYU. I saw how living a lie was destroying their lives, their marriages, their children's lives and it started to scare me. I saw those who were doomed to remain single and alone instead of finding love and happiness because their love and happiness would go against the church teachings. I saw how the closeted amongst us could be the hardest on homosexuals and that was an evil that affected me to the core.

Big decision

In December 2002 my husband and I started talking about starting a family. We agreed that we'd start trying to get pregnant the following July. As July got closer and closer I was really forced to think about my life and what I ultimately wanted. I had two choices -- I could get pregnant and then be a reflection of those I saw at work everyday whom I felt sorry for. I could raise my children in a house were their parents loved each other but weren't in love with each other or I could admit to myself that I was gay and set out to live that lifestyle and see what happens.

July rolled around and I skillfully avoided my husband for a couple of weeks. Eventually he cornered me and I was forced to tell him that I was chickening out of getting pregnant. I took a deep breath and told him it was because I was gay and I couldn't bring a child into the world because they would be able to feel that something was missing and I wanted them to grow up seeing and feeling what it was like to have two parents who were in love with each other.

It wasn't a complete bombshell for him. I had told him that I had been with a woman for a couple of years in high school and college before we were married. In fact, the night I told him about my lesbian relationship. he proposed to me overlooking the Provo Temple. He was sure that if we prayed more and fasted more and talked with the Bishop that I'd be "cured" and "fixed." I started working longer hours at work, pulling all-nighters and finding things to do just to keep myself from seeing the hurt I was causing my best friend and the man I loved.

Days and nights passed and I was emotionally numb. In December 2003 my life changed - she walked in the room and it was love at first sight. I was speechless and smitten before I even knew her name. Tasha and I became friends and again I had that old familiar feeling like I had experienced with my girlfriend in high school. It was like my world was on fire, colors were brighter, foods tasted better. I had more energy and I felt like I floated when I walked. I longed to see her at club practices and tournaments and I found reasons to talk to her and be near her. Suddenly I was alive again and I knew that for the past five years I had been numb and a shell of a person. Tasha was an openly gay coach for a local club team and so rumors once again started to fly concerning my sexual orientation. Though I wasn't acting on my feelings for her I was called into the athletic director's office at BYU and was told that I was guilty by association and that I wasn't to have anything to do with her or anyone else gay anymore.

The reality of my situation came down hard on me. I knew I needed to get a new job. I no longer wanted to live by the BYU Honor Code and work among the hypocrites who would condemn me or be married to a man who thought we were "happy enough" and that I could be fixed like I was broken. I couldn't be in Utah where our church leaders had already said that it is better to be dead than gay and called homosexuals an abomination. Against my husband's desires, I filed for divorce, sold the house and found a new job in Southern California by July 2004.

I moved to Redlands to be the new head volleyball coach at the University of Redlands. Tasha and I moved with our four dogs. I left my family, my church and started to really live my life for the first time in my 26 years. It was scary but so exhilarating. We didn't know anyone but at least we were together and were free to love how and who we wanted. I felt like all the weight of the world had been lifted off me and I was free to live the life I wanted and not the life I was expected to live.

I'm now in my seventh year at the University of Redlands as the head volleyball coach. My players all know that I'm gay. I don't flaunt it but I don't hide it either. I'm not ashamed of who I am. I try to be a coach where my marital status, sexual orientation, blood type or eye color isn't a factor because it doesn't have anything to do with the caliber of coach that I am.

I know that there have been student-athletes in my program over the years and student-athletes from other programs on campus who may be watching me and I have an opportunity to make a difference in their lives as a role model, an example and in some cases, as the first person they have met who is gay.

I like to think that I'm a good person who does good things and that is what defines me, not my sexual orientation and who I love or how I love. I also know that I'm not alone and that there are many coaches at every level who are gay but closeted.

It isn't easy to be a gay coach and at times it can be scary to put yourself out there and be vulnerable. In what is still one of the most fiercely closeted professions, I hope I'll always be measured on my coaching ability and the way in which I treat those around me.

http://www.outsports.com/os/index.php...
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Underwhelmed. Am I Not Getting It? "Openly Gay Mormon Appointed to LDS Church Leadership Position"
Monday, Aug 29, 2011, at 09:19 AM
Original Author(s): Msjack
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
An eye-catching headline was brought to my attention recently:

"Openly Gay Mormon Appointed to LDS Church Leadership Position."

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dis...

Wow, I thought, Now that is something. I clicked on the link expecting to read about an openly gay bishop, or an openly gay member of one of the quorums of the Seventy.

Instead, I found myself reading an article about an openly gay man who has been called to serve as his ward’s executive secretary.

So, being completely honest here, my reaction was, Is that it?

I should probably back up and remind readers that I am not and never have been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and while I do have a degree from BYU and visit an LDS ward with my LDS husband once a month, there’s a lot about how wards operate on the day-to-day level that I’m not familiar with and don’t really get.

My understanding of the executive secretary calling is that it is pretty comparable to the administrative assistant position at my own Protestant church–that is to say, they’re both more of leadership-support positions than leadership positions in their own right. I don’t know all of the responsibilities of my church’s administrative assistant, but I know that she spends time in the office keeping records for the church, helps arrange appointments for the senior pastor and other pastoral staff members, attends leadership team meetings, and has the opportunity to give input on decisions that will effect the congregation. On rare occasions, when pastoral staff members have been out of town, she has been called on to participate in different aspects of the Sunday service, though I don’t believe I’ve ever heard her deliver a sermon.

Likewise, I thought that executive secretaries primarily attend leadership meetings (bishopric meetings and Priesthood Executive Committee meetings) and schedule appointments for the bishop. They do not preside over or conduct Sacrament meetings (even when the entire bishopric is out of town), they have nothing to do with ecclesiastical interviews other than scheduling them, and they do not seem to have much decision-making power at the ward level. Neither do they receive more opportunities to preach to the congregation like members of the bishopric do. As a “Gentile,” the only times anyone has ever told me to talk with the executive secretary has been when I or my husband needed to make an appointment with the bishop.

Please don’t misunderstand me. I am not bashing the work that executive secretaries do. I think all of the roles that make a church body function are important (1 Corinthians 12), and I personally feel that I would be far more suited to the type of support work done by executive secretaries and administrative assistants rather than a full-fledged church leadership position. I also think it’s a good thing for the LDS church to allow openly gay, celibate homosexuals into any church callings for which they might be qualified, and I wish Mitch Mayne the best of luck in his new calling.

What I am questioning is whether or not the executive secretary position deserves the fanfare of “LDS Church Leadership Position.” Does it?

You tell me.
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Evergreen Sticks With "Reparative Therapy" For Gays
Thursday, May 24, 2012, at 12:48 PM
Original Author(s): Once More
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Continuing their tradition of being behind-the-curve, reactionary homophobes, mormons are just now getting around to stating their intention to ignore Robert L. Spitzer’s retraction of his earlier, flawed research.

Excerpts from the article are pasted in below:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/541...
The author of a controversial 2001 study claiming that gays can do so has now disavowed his conclusions, but a Utah organization for Mormons plans to continue using so-called reparative therapy in its efforts to help or “cure” those with same-sex attraction.

In fact, Evergreen International tells The Salt Lake Tribune it has no plans to remove the research from its website.

Even so, Robert L. Spitzer is backing away from his study. “I believe I owe the gay community an apology,” Spitzer wrote in a letter to a psychiatric journal, according to a New York Times story last week.

Spitzer was referring to his study in which he interviewed 200 gay men and women before and after therapy to change their orientation. The majority said they had become “predominantly or exclusively heterosexual.”

Gay leaders questioned Spitzer’s results when they were reported a decade ago.

“The study had serious problems,” The Times reported. “It was based on what people remembered feeling years before – an often fuzzy record. It included some former gay advocates, who were politically active. And it did not test any particular therapy; only half of the participants engaged with a therapist at all, while the others worked with pastoral counselors or in independent Bible study.”

The most serious flaw, critics argued, was that the change was all self-reported.

Spitzer now agrees….

David Pruden, executive director of Salt Lake City-based Evergreen International, is sticking with Spitzer’s initial conclusions – even though Spitzer isn’t….

Elan Karten and Jay C. Wade at Fordham University “did their own follow-up study to test Spitzer’s results,” Pruden said. “[His] results were generally confirmed.”…
Okay. Looks like we now have to review Karten and Wade’s study to prove they are also full of @#$%& – or that Pruden read the study selectively and came to the wrong conclusion.

From the reader's comments:
“LDS Resource For Same Sex Attraction” and “Evergreen International is the most complete resource for Latter-day Saints on same-sex attraction.”
Sorry pal, but everything at this website and their new one (http://www.thessavoice.com/) is LDS-Church centric.

I’ll just add that Evergreen has no visible means of support, and that mormon bigwigs serve on the Board, and that mormon Bishops refer “same sex attracted” members for “treatment.”
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"Mormons Steal The Show At Gay Pride March In Salt Lake City" - Really?
Tuesday, Jun 5, 2012, at 07:30 AM
Original Author(s): Xyz
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The L.A. Times hit it right on the money with that headline, didn't they? Not content with denying the humanity of and the rights of lesbians and gays within their midst, nor with spending tens of millions to do the same in every jurisdiction wherein they could insert their voice from Alaska to Argentina, from Hawaii to Germany, the Mormons have decided to over-run the one thing that publicly set LGBT people apart from TBMs in the entire Mormo-fascist Corridor: the Gay Pride Parade.

Are you confused over whether LGBT people should share THAT celebration with Mormons? So are a lot of LGBT people across the nation:

call me cynical - but I dont trust them.....I wouldn't put it past the Mormons to "pretend all is well" so it gioves them -nationally - a softer feel before the election..I hate to feel this way, but I thinks its ALL part of thier plan. No doubt the Higher ups in the Mormon Cult are Licking thier Chops at the very thought as Mitt Romney being president....and this is JUST A PLOY...to make them come off less, weird, more tolerant etc etc Posted by: Disgusted American | Jun 4, 2012 7:45:50 AM

This is really pathetic. "Mormons Building Bridges" does not suppor gay equality. They "love" us just like Tony Perkins does. They shouldn't have been allowed to march. Posted by: calvin | Jun 4, 2012 7:57:20 AM

I'm not buying it. How convenient that the year we have a Mormon running for president, the Mormons decide they were wrong about gays and want to repent! Please. This is all a ploy and then once the election is over, they will go right back to where they have always been: virulently anti-gay. NOT BUYING IT. Posted by: Rob | Jun 4, 2012 8:23:14 AM

Sorry, but this is an astroturf PR campaign orchestrated to give the Mormon cult cover while they continue to promote and fund anti-gay animosity and legislation around the country and around the world.

Not buying it!

I believe that most of the participants are genuine (as are the Tea Party idiots who are part of the 99% but march in the streets to support the 1% against their own best interests) but the 1% "church" hierarchy are pulling the propaganda strings. The Mormon cult spends hundreds of millions of dollars worldwide each year on propaganda to make themselves look less threatening and more loveable. They're no different from the cult of Scientology; or the cult of Christianity or Islam for that matter. Except they're even more crazy because they believe all the Christian crazy and then added a shitload of their own (demonstrably false) crazy to it.

dum-da'dum-dum dum-dum-dumb! Posted by: TampaZeke | Jun 4, 2012 8:37:44 AM

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/06/mbbv...

Here is one simple truth the SL Tribune (and all the newsmedia who simple cut-'n'-pasted the article) neglected to mention: any tithe-paying Mormon who marched in the SLC Gay Pride Parade is STILL a member of the LDS church, and is counted as such by their lords and masters in the COB. In fact, Reuters is the only newsgroup that accurately drew the distinction between these rogue Mormons and the larger body of the faithful:

"Munson's group is not endorsed by or directly affiliated with Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-group-shows-support-salt-lake-city-gay-010430276.html

I wonder if the members of Mormons Building Bridges all pay an honest tithe to maintain their membership in an organization that some categorize as an organization that actively supports hate groups (the LDS church is probably the single largest financial supporter of NOM):

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed...

There are some bizarre quotes floating around the internet.

This one from a featherweight apologist who knoweth not the difference between conditional and unconditional love, nor, apparently, does she know anything about the millions and millions of dollars her cult has spent fighting LGBT civil rights legislation across America (acts which can hardly be categorized as "loving"):

"The only message is one of love. We are focusing on a message of love. We are faithful Mormons. We believe. We attend our wards. But there has been heartbreak and strife and we want to end that. We are not supported by any political group, and we are asking people to have no signage for political causes. In this Pride Parade contingent, we are not taking a stand either way on marriage equality. Our signs are quotes from LDS Church General Authorities, the Bible, and LDS hymns about loving your neighbor."

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dis...

Mormons Building Bridges group organizer Erika Munson letteth her cog-dis runneth over:

"I've always felt like I was supportive in my own way of the LGBT community but I've had to keep that and my commitment for the church separate."

http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-group-sh...

Translation: "I am a devout TB Mormon but I am going all schizophrenic here and starting this group to try to convince all you gay people that I'm not a hater like my church leaders are."

Do you buy that? I don't.

So who will the parade organizers allow to march next year? How about a few representatives from Focus on the Family? Maybe the KKK can send a contingent -- their sign could read: "White Supremacists Loving Black 2ueerz!"? Or how about asking Charles L. Worley to be the 2013 Grand Marshall:

http://www.viralviralvideos.com/2012/...

I recognize that, living in the middle of Mormon Utah, teh gheyz have to play by the rules of the Reich, but did 1930s Jews appoint Nazis as Rabbis? I think not. This is a question of having one's values lined up properly.

Maybe it's just me, but if I were among the parade's organizers, I would have refused Mormons Building Bridges permission to participate on the premise that "love" or not, they remain self-identified members of an organization that has become known internationally not only as one that has battled against every civil-rights effort by the LGBT community for more than 25 years, but as one that has willingly, actively, physically tortured their own LGBT members, cast them out, and shunned and mistreated them and their loved ones.

Ever since the first organized marches and demonstrations of 27 & 28 June 1970 to commemorate the Stonewall Riots of 1969, the Gay Pride Parade is an "Annual Reminder ... [of] ...the ideas and ideals of the larger struggle in which we are engaged -- that of our fundamental human rights." Carter, David (2004). Stonewall: The Riots That Sparked The Gay Revolution. St. Martin's Press, p.230

Again, maybe it's just me, but the Gay Pride Parade is not an appropriate venue for dedicated TBM hate-group members to apply balm to their collective guilty consciences at. It is not The "Assuage Guilty Mormon Haters' Feelings" Parade. It is a parade to celebrate lesbian and gay independence of, freedom from, and liberation out of the antiquated constrictions of the culture at large, the rules of which -- ESPECIALLY in Salt Lake City -- are dictated by the leaders of and supporters of anti-gay hate groups.

Those who claim "love" need to put their money where their mouths are and resign their membership in such a despicable organization, or protest their so-called "church"'s two-faced hate campaign on their own turf. Mormon "love" pivots conditionally on terms that remain unacceptable. The Gay Pride Parade is not their turf.
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Mormons Building Bridges March With GLBT
Tuesday, Jun 12, 2012, at 07:54 AM
Original Author(s): Xyz
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The thing that makes these "gestures" by well-meaning but still TBM individuals look hollow to non-Mormons and LGBTs alike is this: the church and members have spent millions upon millions of dollars and millions upon millions of man-hours battling AGAINST the secular recognition of LGBTs as human beings for more than 25 years. They have done so openly and secretly. They do so through well-orchestrated but fraudulent "grassroots" campaigns. They do so by providing corporate slush-fund support for virulently anti-gay hate-groups, and for idiotic pray-the-gay-away "therapy" groups, and by covertly steering innocent youth and young adults into shock therapy treatment in order to violently attempt to redirect their sexuality. They preach "love" (CONDITIONAL love) from the pulpit, while their hands practice hate and their minions practice murder (one of Matthew Shepard's murderers was Mormon: there are many others less infamous than Russell Henderson but just as guilty who go unpunished for their crimes). Officialand unofficial Mormon words and actions and intolerance continue to contribute to one of the highest teen suicide rates in the nation, many of whom are believed to be LGBT or who fear that they might be.

Regarding their institutional policies concerning LGBTs, if the Mormon church were to be compared on a 1-10 scale to organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan as "0" and organizations such as Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays as "10", where would the Mormon church fall?

I would say they fall in the range of "2". The only thing that keeps me from saying they are a "1" is that, unlike the KKK, they don't bother wearing their white robes and green aprons when they go out to commit their crimes against humanity.

So when a subgroup - any subgroup - of an organization that is that notoriously full of cruelty, hate, and aggression decides they don't want to be that way anymore and realizes that the way of thinking they have been practicing is wrong on every level, do they say and do ridiculous, incredibly stupid things like "I don't like the KKK's hateful practices like supporting Sherriff Clark and disfranchising and persecuting colored people, but I do still believe colored people are OK as long as they don't ACT on their being colored; so I'm going to try to change the KKK from within, because I think they are a bunch of nice people who are basically misdirected, and I'm going to join the NAACP to show that I really do care about those colored people after all..." ...?

No, they do not. When individuals in those groups decide they no longer desire to march in lockstep with the party line, THEY LEAVE THE GROUP.

Since Proposition 8 passed in 2008, quite a few Mormons have decided they are not interested in participating in a corporation that hides behind the façade of religion to practice their hideously reactionary model of social control, and have made their convictions public by resigning the Mormon church. They realize that corporations are top-down hierarchies, not democracies. They know that voting with their feet is more powerful and effective than sustaining with a show of hands. And the ones who leave know that staying Mormon and forming a group to march in the local Gay Pride Parade is the same as staying in the KKK while protesting that you really do want to carry your little brown brothers' burden: we know it is a lie.
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New Mormon Website: Mormonsandgays.org
Friday, Dec 7, 2012, at 07:03 AM
Original Author(s): Infymus
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The Mormons have put out a new Gay - oops, sorry, Same-Sex-Attraction website:

http://www.mormonsandgays.org/

So what - they're preaching what they should have been preaching the entire time. A little to late.

Unfortunately it is still thus:

We love you. BUT...

You cannot act on your gay feelings.
You cannot have gay sex.
You cannot have a gay relationship.
You cannot have gay marriage.

BUT we still love you.

As long as they continue to hold this opinion, they will still be projecting the same attitude that they did before. Mormon parents will still be instructed that ultimately that being gay is unacceptable. This will continue to foster the hatred and bigotry that has always been there. You can sugar coat the whole "love the sinner, hate the sin" but this isn't SIN - it hasn't anything to do with SIN.

Cook calls up the IT dept: "Make me one of those fan dangled, webby things that have lots of pretty pictures and words on it." Cook is a liar and a swindler who as an attorney, siphoned hundreds of thousands of dollars in his in 27 years as a business lawyer and three years as president of California Healthcare Systems.

This is nothing but the same ploy the Mopologists use - make another goddamn website. See how wonderful we are? Se how marvelous we are?

No, you're just a cult. A bigoted cult.

And then this:
"We believe that with an eternal perspective, a person's attraction to the same sex can be addressed and borne as a mortal test. It should not be viewed as a permanent condition. An eternal perspective beyond the immediacy of this life's challenges offers hope. Though some people, including those resisting same-sex attraction, may not have the opportunity to marry a person of the opposite sex in this life, a just God will provide them with ample opportunity to do so in the next. We can all live life in the full context of who we are, which is much broader than sexual attraction."
Not according to Spencer Kimball - who stated those who are alcoholics in this life will crave alcohol in the next. Who is to say that Gay people won't still be Gay in heaven?

And if I'm reading this right, the Cult is advocating that if you are Gay - then stay Gay until you are dead and then you can get married in the next life. As if being Gay is some kind of handicap or disease.

This website is designed for members who want reassurance that they don't have to change their thinking or broaden their minds. I imagine it will work for some.

Rodolfo on Post Mormon summed it up well for me:

This website:

* Provides no actual education on the incredibly broad-based critical research and long-accepted conclusions about human sexuality in all its wonderful forms.

* Still boldly and fallaciously claims that "no one fully knows the root causes of same-sex attraction".

* Has no explanation of the doctrinal position the church takes, and neither explains its doctrinal and biblical rationale and history, nor does it harmonize the insistence on "unnaturalness" with any of the church's doctrine and policies.

* Contains patently untrue and offensive language throughout that any LGBT person would find highly insulting, e.g. "Same-sex attraction itself is not a sin, but yielding to it is. However, through repentance Jesus Christ will offer forgiveness." (this statement is unbelievable since no one can imagine any mormon saying anything about opposite-sex attraction other than it is a God-given attraction which has as its basis the very core of the celestial kingdom and the very core of eternal happiness and joy: the eternal creation and eternal marriage of gods and goddesses. How can LGBT people not be implicitly condemned by their very attraction itself!)

* No counsel or advice for LGBT people as to how they are supposed to feel about the eternal prison of their lives within mormonism and how they should manage the inability to fall in love, to hold hands, to share closeness and physical touch, to feel thrilled about a future shared in togetherness. No advice as to how they should deal with publicizing their feelings or whether they should "confess" to their church leaders (why should they if it's not a sin?). No advice as to how to deal with such things as dating, boy scout involvement, family relations, missions, etc.

* The lion's share of content is merely uneducated sermonizing by church leaders. This offers no help to any actual LGBT person. It only shows members that the leaders have "something" to say about the matter, and that they "feel their pain."
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LDS Church To Gays: Please Stay With Us!
Friday, Dec 7, 2012, at 07:21 AM
Original Author(s): Mocaptainmoroni
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The new Mormon website "Mormonsandgays.org" - this is one of the most offensive things I've seen recently, and stands as evidence of what I said long ago: homosexuals don't need the church, the church needs them, and that will be proven before long.

This is supposed to make up for all the bullying, intimidation and degradation of homosexuals throughout the LDS Church's history? It's supposed to make up for all the homosexuals, many of them youths, who have been pushed to suicide because of them? Homosexuals who continue to be bullied to the point of suicide today, and will long into the future? Make up for the institutionalized terrorizing of homosexuals at BYU, especially, in the 1970s? Make up for the psychological torture experiments practiced on homosexuals through BYU and Evergreen, with support from the church, for decades? Make up for the ruined lives and relationships of homosexuals exiled from their families, or pushed into straight marriages because of the church?

It's supposed to make up for apostles telling people "God didn't make them that way"? Make up for apostles telling straight members they were justified in violence toward homosexuals to "defend themselves"? Make up for condemnations from on high of people based solely on who they were? Make up for insults, slurs, and attacks throughout its culture by people who had been fed such dogma from their leaders, and used it to justify their own bigotry?

What will they say this time? That God changed his mind, and doesn't hate gay people anymore? Or will they instead, as is more common, pretend their past doesn't exist?

This is disgusting, insulting, and should be offensive to the notions of every truly tolerant and accepting person out there that the LDS Church is trying to reinvent itself as some sort of compassionate organization now, just to save their membership numbers, tithing quotas, and public image. They haven't changed; society has, and they're attempting, just as they did with their black members, to remain relevant.

I urge every homosexual Mormon out there to continue your exodus from this historically bigoted and hateful organization. Pursue happiness on your own terms, with your own identity, and with people who never systematically hated and denigrated you to begin with. The church has no power over you that you don't give to them. You are better than this organization, and deserve better.

Edit: I love how they don't even stick to their own stated principles: http://www.lds.org/liahona/1996/03/sa...

"We should note that the words homosexual, lesbian, and gay are adjectives to describe particular thoughts, feelings, or behaviors. We should refrain from using these words as nouns to identify particular conditions or specific persons."
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Mormons And Gays - Where Have I Heard This One Before?
Monday, Dec 10, 2012, at 11:40 AM
Original Author(s): Darth J
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
From mormonsandgays.org:
The Church's approach to this issue stands apart from society in many ways. And that's all right. Reasonable people can and do differ. From a public relations perspective it would be easier for the Church to simply accept homosexual behavior. That we cannot do, for God's law is not ours to change. There is no change in the Church's position of what is morally right. But what is changing - and what needs to change - is to help Church members respond sensitively and thoughtfully when they encounter same-sex attraction in their own families, among other Church members, or elsewhere.
It just seems to have a familiar ring to it........

Oh, now I remember where I have heard it before:
We feel nothing but love, compassion, and the deepest appreciation for the rich talents, endowments, and the earnest strivings of our Negro brothers and sisters. We are eager to share with men of all races the blessings of the Gospel. We have no racially-segregated congregations. Were we the leaders of an enterprise created by ourselves and operated only according to our own earthly wisdom, it would be a simple thing to act according to popular will. But we believe that this work is directed by God and that the conferring of the priesthood must await His revelation. To do otherwise would be to deny the very premise on which the Church is established.
http://www.blacklds.org/1969-first-pr...
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Kerry Rutz Aka FlatTop/Xyz Has Died
Monday, Mar 4, 2013, at 07:29 AM
Original Author(s): Infymus
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
The Ex-Mormon communities have lost another great one. RFM and other areas are morning Flattop/Xyz aka Kerry Rutz. He was a great contributor to many areas of helping gay and lesbians who are continually rejected by the Mormon Church. He was a kind and engaging person and the world is diminished without him.

He committed suicide Mon, Feb 25. This is extremely sad and he will be greatly missed. It is so unfortunate.

If you, or someone you love is thinking about suicide, you can call or go to:

NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION LIFELINE NUMBER 1-800-273-TALK (8255)

1-800-273-TALK (8255)

http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline....
Kerry's memorial page:

http://www.keefefuneralhome.com/book-...

He once wrote:
"The departure of beloved friends has impacted my life, leaving gaps and holes that nothing can refill. Participating in Life After Death: Embracing the Queer Widow has given me an opportunity to create works that seek to interpret, resolve, and heal the grief of loss. I hold a mirror up to the society I live in, challenge you, the viewer, to look at yourself; and ask you to think, change, act, and improve. I want to draw you in, touch your spirit and stir your deepest emotions."
And:
"I believe that events such as birth or death are transitions. Individuals, and we, who are around them, must pass through them alone, each in our own way. For the individual, a nexus or gateway into or out of this existence is opened, and elemental life forces are shaken loose in the process. Others sharing the experience must undergo a different spiritual transformation; either to cling to our loved ones' memory so much that we also "die" in this existence, or to climb through the pain of loss and return to the joy of life, having become deepened, enriched."
http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/fu...
HOBOKEN AND BEYOND -- According to NJ.com, the body found by police floating in the Hudson River near the Hoboken train terminal on Tuesday has been identified as Kerry L. Rutz, 53, of Somerville, Mass.

The Hudson County Prosecutor's office told the news outlet that foul play is not supected, based on a note that was recovered.

Rutz was reported missing in his hometown on Monday, the story said.

Rutz is identified on several web sites as an artist who deals with issues related to the gay community, as well as the recipient of a Master's degree in Landscape Architecture at Harvard's Graduate School of Design.
I would hope that some day religious leaders will stop being bigoted and close minded and open their hearts to all people.

You can find some of his work here:

http://www.fagart.com/kerry.html

His contributions that I have collected over the years:

Love The Sinner, Hate The Sin" Is A Cop-Out

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_op...

"Since This Is So Funny, How Can It Be So Sad? And Since It Is So Sad, How Can It Be So Funny?" An Essay

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_op...

Does Membership In The Magical Mystery Morg Instill Cul-De-Sac Thought Patterns?

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_op...

For You Frustrated Unbelievers Who Are Still Bound To TBMS: Untie Your Gordian Knot!

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_op...

Most Damning Verse Contest: Questioning The Validity Of The Book Of Mor[m]on!

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_bo...

"Mormons Steal The Show At Gay Pride March In Salt Lake City" - Really?

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_ho...

"One, Two, Three - Let's Go Shopping!" ... Or, How: Righteousness = Riches

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_ke...

"Prophets Are Not Scientists"

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_fa...

Joseph B. Wirthlin's Involvment In Proposition 8

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_jo...

Mormons Building Bridges March With GLBT

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_ho...
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LDS Therapists Launch Really Messed Up "Center For Gender Wholeness"
Tuesday, Apr 2, 2013, at 11:54 AM
Original Author(s): Whatizitman
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
It's apparently run by four master's level therapists. Their model is apparently based on the assumption (not well clarified, mind you), that unwanted same-sex attraction can be treated. Or even more insidious, the "goals and needs" of each client can be met through therapy toward "wholeness". A quick look at the experiences of the therapists and populations they have served reveals that they are strongly on the side of pray-the-gay-away.

See their website: genderwholeness.com/lds/

Unwanted same-sex attraction? What the fuck does that mean? How many GLBT people have you known that truly wanted same-sex attraction when they began to realize they were so? Y'know, since their life, family, job, religion, friends were all going to be so affirming and celebratory of their same-sex attraction.

It's bad enough that they are selling snake oil. It's worse that they market themselves in a way toward those most vulnerable.

These are not experts (I know I'm speaking to the choir, here, but hear me out). They are blinded by their beliefs and lack of ability for self-reflection. They are severely lacking in ethics of counseling, scientific inquiry, and humanistic outlook. Although they are not beholden to APA, they are to their own professional organizations and ethics board. I believe the main counselor's national organizations fall in line with APA on this topic.

I know that I'm an arrogant and narcissistic fuck (I'm a psychologist. we all are). I have absolutely nothing against master's level therapists. I've worked with some incredible MAs and MSWs. But, training at the doctoral level of psychology is long, arduous, and highly competitive. The history of doctoral level psychology training is strongly within the academic and research communities. It tends to weed out a lot of this type of shit.

Please. For your sake. Seek out highly trained and credentialed therapists that focus on mental health as science first and foremost.

Here's just a sampling of the many bizarre claims and dangerous tips provided on the site. (Note: All of the resources are geared toward male homosexuality, because "the Center for Gender Wholeness does not have expertise in working with female homosexuality.")
  • Gay people are more likely to have a history of experiencing trauma and emotional and psychological problems.
  • Among the supposed "causes" of homosexuality are unhealthy childhood relationships with females, distorted concepts of gender, feeling incongruent with one's own gender, problems in relationships with other males, sexual conditioning, sexual abuse, certain biological and physical issues, and certain emotional and psychological problems. [Obviously, this approach completely conflates transgender identities, despite gender identity being a completely independent variable from sexual orientation.]
  • People trying to help their gay friends should ask about how they have acted on their attractions, but should be careful not to give them ideas of behaviors they haven't tried.
  • Therapy is "necessary" if an individual "reports unsuccessful attempts to diminish their same-sex attractions."
  • Mormons should encourage (opposite-sex) marriage as a solution to same-sex attractions.
  • Mormons should recognize "the hope window," when people with same-sex attractions are most optimistic about change.
  • Therapy can help resolve the "issues that underlie unwanted same-sex attraction."
  • Treatment can include an addiction recovery program and medication.
  • The therapists apparently use "brainspotting" to determine "where a person is holding trauma or other negative experience in their brain."
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LDS Church: 23 Lobbyists/23 States Have Worked To Ban Gay Marriage
Monday, Dec 2, 2013, at 09:04 AM
Original Author(s): Summer
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
From The Guardian:
"The recently released official Mormon church documents published by Mother Jones, show that church has been acting more like Exxon-Mobil or AT&T than a religion. They have had up to 23 lobbyists in 23 states all over the country working to pass laws and constitutional amendments banning gay marriage and opposing each and every marriage equality bill.

It is astounding that the Mormon church appears to use tax deductible donations given to the church to lobby and run political issue campaigns. Official LDS church documents show the measures the LDS church took to keep its involvement secret and obscure the source of its funds.

Perhaps it's time that the US Department of Justice and the IRS take a closer look at the Mormon church's political activities to determine if its tax-exempt status allows for this. If the Mormon church wants to act like a corporation and not a religion, then its income should likely be taxed."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisf...

LDS Church lobbying reports as published by Mother Jones:

http://www.motherjones.com/documents/...
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Utah's Hired Mormon Lawyer's Real Master Outed
Friday, Jan 24, 2014, at 02:32 PM
Original Author(s): Mighty Builder, Equality
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
Gene Schaerr, hired by the state to help defend Utah's Amendment 3, was accused Wednesday of taking the job "to impose a certain religious viewpoint," but Attorney General Sean Reyes says the attorney was selected because of his expertise in constitutional and appellate law.

According to an email circulated online Wednesday, Schaerr told co-workers at the Washington, D.C., law firm Winston & Strawn that he was resigning to "fulfill what I have come to see as a religious and family duty: defending constitutionality of traditional marriage in the state where my church is headquartered and where most of my family resides."

The Human Rights Campaign, a national organization that works to ensure equal rights for LGBT people, said Wednesday that Schaerr's motivation was religious rather than an interest in defending whether the state's voter-approved definition of marriage is constitutional.

See: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=28457308&nid=...

In his exit email to his partners he invokes the blessing of God on the Firm and each of his former partners. This is the nutjob the state of Utah is relying on to save "traditional" marriage in Utah and the nation. He leaves a high-six-figure or maybe seven-figure gig at a prestigious firm to be the last best hope for legally enshrined bigotry, all because he thinks he is on some kind of sacred mission for Jeebus. Reminds me of that sad-sack couple in California who gave their life savings to the Prop 8 campaign because they got the warm fuzzies after evening prayers. At least this guy will probably be able to land a desk at K&M in Salt Lake City after his record reaches 0 and 6 at SCOTUS. What a tool.


Here is the Trib aritcle on it: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogscri...

My favorite line from the article is this one:
Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes issued a statement Wednesday night that said religious views were never a factor in hiring Schaerr.

"Mr. Schaerr was hired because he was the most qualified applicant and gives us the best chance to win," Reyes said. "Any intimation that he was hired for reasons other than his qualifications, his understanding of the Constitution and his mastery of the legal issues in this case are offensive and detract from the civility this case merits."
Hey, if you believe that, I've got some oceanfront property in Nebraska I'd like to offer you.

Let's see: the "most qualified applicant" in the entire United States of America is a guy who is 0 for 5 at the Supreme Court in his career, and he just happens to be a Mormon who thinks it is his religious duty to fight the gays. Totally believable. It appears the state will not be the only one paying this zealot's salary--the Sutherland Institute (a conservative "think tank" with major ties to BYU, the Lord's Law Firm Kirton & McConkie, the Koch Brothers, and yes, the LDS Church) will be footing part of Schaerr's salary. So we have a Mormon zealot being paid, in part, by a group that has close ties to the LDS Church, to represent the state of Utah.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/86...
The Sutherland Institute is a Utah-based think tank dedicated to "protecting the cause of freedom" and "constructively influencing Utah's decision makers." Among those attending Tuesday's dinner were Gov. Gary Herbert, Utah State Senate President Wayne Niederhauser, state senators Stuart Adams, R-Layton, and Stuart Reid, R-Ogden, as well as Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve and Elder L. Whitney Clayton of the Seventy from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Mormon Legislator Has Proposed A Bill That Allows Business And Service Professionals To Refuse Service To People Based On Their "Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs"
Friday, Feb 7, 2014, at 12:02 PM
Original Author(s): Jazzskeeter
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
From the Idaho Statesmen:
Wednesday was again the focus of frustration among gay rights activists as lawmakers kept alive a bill that Republican religious conservatives argue is necessary to protect businesses from being forced to serve customers whose lifestyles offend their faith traditions.

The House State Affairs Committee's 11-5 vote to send the bill to the floor came two days after 44 gay rights activists were arrested for barring entry to the state Senate. More than 500 people, nearly all foes of the bill, showed up.

Dozens who testified during the 3 ½ hour hearing said they wanted it killed on the grounds that it enshrines discrimination in Idaho law.

However, Republican lawmakers on the panel said they favored the bill to expand an existing 14-year-old Idaho law, making it tougher to sue people who cite their religious faith for not serving, among others, gay and lesbian customers.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/02...

A Mormon legislator has proposed a bill that allows business and service professionals to refuse service to people based on their "sincerely held religious beliefs".

In spite of the fact that eight years running, the legislature has refused to hold a hearing on "Add the Words" (add the words, "gender identity" and "sexual orientation" to Idaho's human rights statement), this "religious protection" cockamamie bill got a hearing within one week of being drawn up.

500 people flooded the Capitol and spoke eloquently against the bill. Only TWO people testified in favor.

Guess what? The panel voted 11-5 to pass the bill on to the next phase.
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Authoritative LDS Quotes On Homosexuality
Monday, Mar 31, 2014, at 07:36 AM
Original Author(s): Brad Carmack
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
  1. "To the `misinformed' who believe `God make them that way'. This is as untrue as any other of the diabolical lies Satan has concocted. It is blasphemy. Man is made in the image of God. Does the pervert think God to be `that way?[i]'"
  2. "There appears to be a consensus in the world that it is natural, to one degree or another, for a percentage of the population. Therefore, we must accept it as all right. However, when you put a moral instrument on it, the needle immediately flips to the side labeled "wrong." It may even register "dangerous." The answer: It is not all right. It is wrong! It is not desirable; it is unnatural; it is abnormal; it is an affliction. When practiced, it is immoral.[ii]"
  3. "Some suppose that they were pre-set and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and unnatural. Not so! Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, He is our Father.[iii]"
  4. "Satan tells his victims that it is a natural way of life; that it is normal; that perverts are a different kind of people born `that way' and that they cannot change. This is a base lie. All normal people have sex urges and if they control such urges, they grow strong and masterful. If they yield to their carnal desires and urges, they get weaker until their sins get beyond control. `The knowledge that homosexuality can be effectively treated must be made more generally known, to offset the effect of organized groups of homosexuals who would have society accept homosexuality and relieve them of the pressure to undergo the changes that can be effected through appropriate treatment. It can be overcome and the case of difficulty of overcoming depends largely upon the strength or weakness of the individual, the depth of his entrenchment, the quality and quantity of his desire and determination.'"[iv]
  5. "Some continue until, when the changing gets difficult, they admit their inability to cope with it and yield. They rationalize that they are of another class of people; that the Lord made them that way; that they cannot change. The powerful Lucifer has had his day."[v]
  6. "'God made me that way,' some say, as they rationalize and excuse themselves for their [homosexual] perversions. `I can't help it,' they add. This is blasphemy. Is man not made in the image of God, and does he think God to be `that way'?"[vi]"
  7. "God made no man a pervert. To blame a weakness and transgression upon God is cowardly."[vii]
  8. "Do not be misled by those who whisper that it is part of your nature and therefore right for you. That is false doctrine![viii]"
  9. "It was not God who made them [homosexuals] that way....He gave all mankind free agency.[ix]"
  10. "There is a falsehood that some are born with an attraction to their own kind, with nothing they can do about it. They are just "that way" and can only yield to those desires. That is a malicious and destructive lie. While it is a convincing idea to some, it is of the devil.[x]
  11. "God did not make men evil. He did not make people `that way.'"[xi]
  12. "Since homosexuals have become a nationwide entity, and have come out of hiding to demand their place in the sun, many of them claim that they are what they are because they were born that way and cannot help it. How ridiculous is such a claim. It was not God who made them that way, any more than He made bank robbers the way they are[xii].
  13. "There is some widely accepted theory extant that homosexuality is inherited. How can this be? No scientific evidence demonstrates absolutely that this is so. Besides, if it were so, it would frustrate the whole plan of mortal happiness. Our designation as men or women began before this world was. In contrast to the socially accepted doctrine that homosexuality is inborn, a number of respectable authorities contend that homosexuality is not acquired by birth. The false belief of inborn sexual orientation denies to repentant souls the opportunity to change and will ultimately lead to discouragement, disappointment, and despair.[xiii]"
  14. "When I say this is sin, I am quoting the Creator of the world. Truth is truth and needs no eloquent tongue nor brilliant brain to portray it."[xiv]
  15. "Next to the crime of murder comes the sin of sexual impurity as expressed in its many manifestations: adultery, fornication, homosexuality and related transgressions. Man is created in the image of God and prostitutes his God-given powers and image in such practices. No amount of rationalization can really neutralize the pollution. The death penalty was exacted in the days of Israel for such wrong-doing."[xv]
  16. "Homosexuality is an ugly sin, but because of its prevalence, the need to warn the uninitiated, and the desire to help those who may already be involved with it, it must be brought into the open. It is the sin of the ages....[xvi]"
  17. "Reason might also be employed to convince the individual that there is no future for a homosexual. the day will come in his life when there is nothing left but chaff and dust and barrenness and desolation."[xvii]
  18. "First, far less is known about the causes of same-gender attraction than is claimed to be known. Preliminary findings are touted as proven facts while retractions or contradicting evidence about the same issue receive little, if any, attention. The result is an abundance of untruth and distortions worthy of Isaiah's warning: `Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil.[xviii]"
  19. "homosexuals can be assured that in spite of all they may have heard from other sources, they can overcome and return to normal, happy living.[xix]"
  20. "If someone seeking your help says to you, `I am a homosexual,' or, `I am lesbian,' or, `I am gay,' correct this miscasting. it is simply not true. To speak this way seeds a doubt and deceit about who we really are.[xx]"
  21. "Please notice that I use [homosexual] as an adjective, not as a noun: I reject it as a noun. I repeat, I accept that word as an adjective to describe a temporary condition. I reject it as a noun naming a permanent one.[xxi]"
  22. "First, it is important to understand that homosexuality is not innate and unchangeable. Research has not proved that homosexuality is genetic. Even more important, many researchers whose studies have been used to support a biological model for homosexuality have determined that their work has been misinterpreted. What is clear is that homosexuality results from an interaction of social, biological, and psychological factors. These factors may include temperament, personality traits, sexual abuse, familial factors, and treatment by one's peers.[xxii]"
  23. "Today we are aware of great problems in our society. The most obvious are sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, drug abuse, alcoholism, vandalism, pornography, and violence. These grave problems are symptoms of failure in the home-the disregarding of principles and practices established by God in the very beginning.[xxiii]"
  24. "For centuries men have sought to find the cause of this condition. but it is not a physical disorder. A most extensive physical examination will not reveal one shred of evidence that it is. Physicians have never located any tangible control center in the body that can be adjusted by medical or surgical means to change this condition. The next obvious place to look is the emotional or psychological part of our nature. Here we come closer.[xxiv]"
  25. "There is a reason why we in the Church do not talk more openly about this subject. Some matters are best handled very privately. With many things, it is easy - very easy - to cause the very things we are trying to avoid. On one occasion, with a friend of mine, I went to the medical center of a large university to see another friend who was a doctor there. In the waiting room before us was a low table covered with pamphlets describing various diseases. My friend observed: `Well, there they are. Read enough about it and you'll think you've got it.' and I have already said that we can very foolishly cause things we are trying to prevent by talking too much about them.[xxv]"
  26. "Is this tendency impossible to change? Is it preset at the time of birth and locked in? Do you just have to live with it? For example, the shutter of an expensive camera is calibrated at the factory and cannot be adjusted in the field. If such a camera, by chance, is thrown out of calibration or damaged, it cannot be fixed locally. It must eventually go back to the factory, for only there can it be put in order. Is perversion like that? The answer is a conclusive no! It is not like that. Some so-called experts, and many of those who have yielded to the practice, teach that it is congenital and incurable and that one just has to learn to live with it. They can point to a history of very little success in trying to put whatever mechanism that causes this back into proper adjustment. They have, to support them, some very convincing evidence. Much of the so-called scientific literature concludes that there really is not much that can be done about it. I reject that conclusion out of hand.[xxvi]"
  27. "The chief psychiatrist at one of Washington's largest hospitals says, `A normal 12- or 13-year-old boy or girl exposed to pornographic literature could develop into a homosexual.'[xxvii]"
  28. "Having same-gender attraction is NOT in your DNA.[xxviii]"
  29. "First is the misconception that same-gender attraction is an inborn and unalterable orientation. This untrue assumption tries to persuade you to label yourselves and build your entire identity around a fixed sexual orientation or condition.[xxix]"
  30. "Some who become tangled up in this disorder become predators. They proselyte the young or the inexperienced. It becomes very important for them to believe that everyone, to one degree or another, is "that way". Do not be deceived. If you are one of the few who are subject to this temptation, do not be misled into believing that you are a captive to it. That is false doctrine![xxx]"
  31. "There are said to be millions of perverts who have relinquished their natural affection and bypassed courtship and normal marriage relationships. This practice is spreading like a prairie fire and changing our world. They are without `natural affection' for God, for spouses, and even for children.[xxxi]"
  32. "Every form of homosexuality is sin. Pornography is one of the approaches to that transgression.[xxxii]"
  33. "[A]nimals do not pair up with their own gender to satisfy their mating instincts.[xxxiii]"
  34. "Now it is not all that unusual for a boy or a girl, in a moment of childish play with someone of the same gender, to enter into some mischief. two young men or two young women, motivated by some attraction or responding to a desire for affection - any kind of affection - sometimes are drawn almost innocently into unnatural behavior. They can be drawn into some circumstances that makes them, for the moment, doubt their identity. Do not be deluded into thinking that such thoughts and feelings are normal for you. Just because you experience some period of confusion, do not make of that thing something that it is not. Do not order your life to conform to a transient thought or experience[xxxiv]."
  35. "Find a therapist who can help you identify the unmet emotional needs that you are tempted to satisfy in false sexual ways[xxxv]."
  36. "There is a distinction between immoral thoughts and feelings and participating in either immoral heterosexual or any homosexual behavior. However, such thoughts and feelings, regardless of their causes, can and should be overcome and sinful behavior should be eliminated. This can be achieved through faith in God, sincere repentance, and persistent effort.[xxxvi]"
  37. "Children learn how to love in a stable, healthy family. Parents need to know that lack of proper affection in the home can result in unnatural behavior in their children such as homosexuality or inability to be an effective parent when the time comes.[xxxvii]"
  38. ""We are told that as far back as Henry the VIII, this vice was referred to as 'THE ABOMINABLE AND DETESTABLE CRIME AGAINST NATURE. We know such a disease is curable. and promise him if he will stay away from the haunts and the temptations, and the former associates, he may heal himself, cleanse his mind and return to his normal pursuits and a happy state of mind. The cure for this malady lies in self mastery.[xxxviii]"
  39. "We talked of the influences that had put [a young gay man] where he is, of the home from which he came, of associations with other young men, of books and magazines read, of shows seen.[xxxix]"
  40. "It is easy to hypothesize that inheritance plays a role in sexual orientation. However it is important to remember, as conceded by two advocates of this approach, that `the concept of substantial heritability should not be confused with the concept of inevitable heritability. ... Most mechanisms probably involve interactions between constitutional predispositions and environmental events. Satan "seeks to undermine the principle of individual accountability, to persuade us to misuse our sacred powers of procreation, to discourage marriage and childbearing by worthy men and women, and to confuse what it means to be male or female.[xl]"
  41. "Thus prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation....While we should not regard this weakness as the heinous sin which some other sexual practices are, it is of itself bad enough to require sincere repentance. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation - practiced with another person of the same sex - and then into total homosexuality.. Sin in sex practices tends to have a `snowballing' effect. As the restraints fall away, Satan incites the carnal man to ever-deepening degeneracy in his search for excitement until in many instances he is lost to any former consideration of decency. Thus it is that through the ages, perhaps as an extension of homosexual practices, men and women have sunk even to seeking sexual gratification with animals[xli]."
  42. "If an individual tries to receive comfort, satisfaction, affection, or fulfillment from deviate physical interaction with someone of his own gender, it can become an addiction! At first it may fill a need and give comfort of some kind, but, when that has faded, feelings of guilt and depression follow. A greater need soon emerges.[xlii]"
  43. "It should go without saying that many of these problems would be alleviated if parents would spend more time teaching and rearing their children. Related to the story that I gave at the beginning of my talk is evidence of a clinical researcher who, after studying 850 individual cases, stated: "Homosexuality would not occur where there is a normal, loving father-and-son relationship." Any of our people living in righteousness would normally avoid being involved in these problems.[xliii]"
  44. "The Lord defined some very basic differences between men and women. He gave the male what we call masculine traits and the female feminine traits. He did not intend either of the sexes to adopt the other's traits but, rather, that men should look and act like men and that women should look and act like women. When these differences are ignored, an unwholesome relationship develops, which, if not checked, can lead to the reprehensible, tragic sin of homosexuality. In other words, we have a responsibility as priesthood bearers to be examples of true manhood.[xliv]"
  45. "There are some circumstances in which young men may be tempted to handle one another. When a young man is finding his way into manhood, such experiences can misdirect his normal desires and pervert him not only physically but emotionally and spiritually as well.[xlv]"
  46. "Normal desires and attractions emerge in the teenage years; there is the temptation to experiment, to tamper with the sacred power of procreation. These desires can be intensified, even perverted, by pornography, improper music, or the encouragement from unworthy associations. What would have only been a more or less normal passing phase in establishing gender identity can become implanted and leave you confused, even disturbed. If you consent, the adversary can take control of your thoughts and lead you carefully toward a habit and to an addiction, convincing you that immoral, unnatural behavior is a fixed part of your nature. With some few, there is the temptation which seems nearly overpowering for man to be attracted to man or woman to woman. The scriptures plainly condemn those who "dishonour their own bodies between themselves . ; men with men working that which is unseemly" or "women [who] change the natural use into that which is against nature." The gates of freedom, and the good or bad beyond,
  47. sw
  48. ing open or closed to the password choice. You are free to choose a path that may lead to despair, to disease, even to death."[xlvi]"
  49. "Important as it is, building stronger homes is not enough in the fight against rising permissiveness. We therefore urge Church members as citizens to lift their voices, to join others in unceasingly combatting, in their communities and beyond, the inroads of pornography and the general flaunting of permissiveness. Let us vigorously oppose the shocking developments which encourage the old sins of Sodom and Gomorrah, and which defile the human body as the temple of God.[xlvii]"
  50. "Freedom from this kind of enslavement is up to a trail that an individual must walk alone. If you stumble, get up and move on. Soon your bruises will heal. You will grow stronger. Your battle is two-thirds won, or three-fourths or four-fifths won, when you take charge of your identity. Accept yourself as belonging in the tabernacle that God has provided for you. Your body was provided as an instrument of your mind. It has the purpose to bless others. Don't be mixed up in this twisted kind of self-love.[xlviii]"
  51. "A 1977 Sacramento Bee article "gave expert evidence that homosexuals certainly are not born - they are made - further defusing claims that they `can't help it.'[xlix]""
  52. "The Church refutes the idea that homosexual orientation is genetically determined..Furthermore, a genetic/biological cause of homosexual attraction has not found support in the scientific literature. "Science has never proved a genetic link to sexual orientation. Moreover, the Church repeatedly, in nearly every statement about homosexual relations, teaches that homosexual attraction is not inherent to a person's particular genetic make-up and that they are quite able to change.[l]"
  53. "BYU does not intend `to admit to our campus any homosexuals. If any of you have this tendency and have not completely abandoned it, may I suggest that you leave the university immediately after this assembly; and if you will be honest enough to let us know the reason, we will voluntarily refund your tuition. We do not want others on this campus to be contaminated by your presence.'[li]"
  54. "[BYU] will never knowingly enroll an unrepentant person who follows these practices nor tolerate on its campus anyone with these tendencies who fails to repent and put his or her life in order.[lii]"
  55. "Once the carnal in man is no longer checked by the restraints of family life and by real religion, there comes an avalanche of appetites which gathers momentum that is truly frightening. As one jars loose and begins to roll down hill, still another breaks loose, whether it is an increase in homosexuality, corruption, drugs, or abortion. Each began as an appetite that needed to be checked but which went unchecked.[liii]"
  56. "'Homosexuality can be cured if the battle is well organized and pursued vigorously and continuously.' [This obviously refers to the condition of sexual attraction to persons of the same sex.][liv]"
  57. "The words homosexual, lesbian, and gay are adjectives to describe particular thoughts, feelings, or behaviors. We should refrain from using these words as nouns [or pronouns] to identify particular conditions or specific persons. . . . It is wrong to use these words to denote a condition, because this implies that a person is consigned by birth to a circumstance in which he or she has no choice in respect to the critically important matter of sexual behavior.[lv]"
  58. "Usually, there will be some resistance, particularly with the abandonment of the people for many perverts will claim to have great "love" for some with whom they have been involved, especially where there has been a sustained relationship, but since the problem is in the mind more than in the body, it is necessary to find a new climate and to make possible the elimination of the evil thoughts which drive him back to his trouble.[lvi]"
  59. "Sexual immorality creates a barrier to the influence of the Holy Spirit with all its uplifting, enlightening, and empowering capabilities. It causes powerful physical and emotional stimulation. In time that creates an unquenchable appetite that drives the offender to ever more serious sin. It engenders selfishness and can produce aggressive acts such as brutality, abortion, sexual abuse, and violent crime. Such stimulation can lead to acts of homosexuality, and they are evil and absolutely wrong.[lvii]"
  60. "When one projects himself in some confused role-playing way with those of the same gender in an effort to become more masculine or more feminine, something flips over and precisely the opposite results. In a strange way, this amounts to trying to love yourself. A male, in his feelings and emotions, can become less masculine and more feminine and confused. A female can become, in her emotions, less feminine and more masculine and confused. Because the body cannot change, the emotional part may struggle to transform itself into the opposite gender. Then an individual is on a hopeless, futile quest for identity where it can never be achieved.[lviii]"
  61. "Only be the destruction of those who practice them. Why, if a little nest of them were left that were guilty of these things, they would soon corrupt others, as some are being corrupted among us... how can this [sodomy] be stopped? Not while those who have knowledge of these filthy crimes exist. The only way, according to all that I can understand as the word of God, is for the Lord to wipe them out, that there will be none left to perpetuate the knowledge of these dreadful practices among the children of men. And God will do it, as sure as He has spoken by the mouths of His prophets.[lix]"
  62. "When we understand fundamental moral law better than we do, we will be able to correct this condition routinely.[lx]"
  63. "Be choosy about the professionals you enlist. Many are proponents of the "you were born that way" philosophy. Ensure that the counseling is consistent with gospel principles.[lxi]"
  64. "Now it is not all that unusual for a boy or a girl, in a moment of childish play with someone of the same gender, to enter into some mischief that should remain essentially innocent and meaningless and should be forgotten. And two young men or two young women, motivated by some attraction or responding to a desire for affection - any kind of affection - sometimes are drawn almost innocently into unnatural behavior. They can be drawn into some circumstances that makes them, for the moment, doubt their identity. Do not be deluded into thinking that such thoughts and feelings are normal for you. Just because you experience some period of confusion, do not make of that thing something that it is not. Do not order your life to conform to a transient thought or experience. And just because someone has stubbed his toe a bit, or just because someone did not watch carefully where he was going and got off the track into some unnatural behavior, or just because he may have fallen victim to some clever predator, th
  65. at
  66. is no reason to jump off the cliff into spiritual oblivion[lxii]." (1978)
  67. "begin the ruinous practice of perversion through curiosity and then become entangled in its tentacles.[lxiii]"
  68. "First, it is important to understand that homosexuality is not innate and unchangeable. Research has not proved that homosexuality is genetic.[lxiv]"
  69. "Many questions, however, including some related to same-gender attractions, must await a future answer, even in the next life.[lxv]"
  70. "The cause of this disorder has remained hidden for so long because we have been looking for it in the wrong place. When the cause is discovered, it may be nothing so mysterious after all. It may be hidden because it is so obvious. Have you explored the possibility that the cause when found, will turn out to be a very typical form of selfishness - selfishness in a very subtle form? Now - and understand this - I do not think for a minute that the form of selfishness at the root of perversion is a conscious one, at least not to begin with. I am sure it is quite the opposite. Selfishness can attach itself to an individual without his being aware that he is afflicted with it. It can become imbedded so deeply and disguised so artfully as to be almost indistinguishable. It is hard to believe that any individual would, by a clear, conscious decision or by a pattern of them, choose a course of deviation. It is much more subtle than that. If one could even experiment with the possibility that selfishness of a ve
  71. ry s
  72. ubtle nature may be the cause of this disorder, that quickly clarifies many things. It opens the possibility of putting some very sick things in order. When one has the humility to admit that a spiritual disorder is tied to perversion and that selfishness rests at the root of it, already the way is open to the treatment of the condition. It is a painful admission indeed that selfishness may be at the root of it, but we do not have much evidence that one can cure perversion by trying to cure perversion. If unselfishness can effect a cure, we ought to be desperate enough by now at least to experiment with the possibility. I repeat, we have had very little success in trying to remedy perversion by treating perversion. It is very possible to cure it by treating selfishness... you can understand unselfishness and selfishness. You can learn to cure perversion. [lxvi]"
  73. "In the event that you have members who have homosexual tendencies or activities, it will be your privilege and responsibility to assist them to effect a cure and bring their lives back into total normalcy. This dread practice is becoming widespread in the country and there is some of it even among our members which we deeply regret."[lxvii]
  74. "The entrenched homosexual has generally and gradually moved all of his interests and affections to those of his own sex rather than to the opposite sex and herein is another step. When you feel he is ready, he should be encouraged to date and gradually move his life toward the normal. If they will close the door to the intimate associations with their own sex and open it wide to that of the other sex, of course in total propriety, and then be patient and determined, gradually they can move their romantic interests where they belong. Homosexuality CAN be cured." [lxviii]
  75. "You might be able for a time to deceive your associates and leaders. But, you cannot lie to yourself nor to your lord, for in spite of all the rationalization, you know deep in your heart what you are. You may be able to convince your mind that it is not so wrong but deep in your heart, you will always be uneasy and unhappy and know that your sin is vicious and base. Remember there are no rooms with such tight windows or with blinds so heavy but that the Lord and his angles know what is going on."[lxix]
References:
  • [i] Spencer W. Kimball, August 13, 1975
  • [ii] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [iii] Boyd K. Packer, Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, "Cleansing the Inner Vessel" October 3 2010. I report the version I heard from his lips when I watched General Conference.
  • [iv] Horizons for Homosexuals, published by the church in 1971.
  • [v] Horizons for Homosexuals, published by the church in 1971.
  • [vi] Spencer W. Kimball, Church President, "President Kimball Speaks Out on Morality", Ensign, November 1980, p. 97.
  • [vii] Horizons for Homosexuals, published by the church in 1971.
  • [viii] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [ix] Mark E. Petersen, Apostle, December 16, 1978, "Sin is No Excuse", Church News, p. 16.
  • [x] Boyd K. Packer, "To Young Men Only," General Conference Priesthood Session, October 2, 1976.
  • [xi] Horizons for Homosexuals, published by the church in 1971.
  • [xii] Mark E. Petersen, Apostle, December 16, 1978, "Sin is no excuse," Church News, p. 16.
  • [xiii] James E. Faust, "Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil," Ensign, Sep 1995, 2.
  • [xiv] Horizons for Homosexuals, published by the church in 1971.
  • [xv] Horizons for Homosexuals, published by the church in 1971.
  • [xvi] "The Foundations of Righteousness," General Conference, Spencer Kimball 1977.
  • [xvii] Hope for Transgressors, published by the church in 1970.
  • [xviii] Bishop Keith McMullin, Evergreen International Annual Conference, Saturday, September 18, 2010.
  • [xix] First Presidency Circular Letter, March 19, 1970, LDS Church Archives.
  • [xx] Bishop Keith McMullin, Evergreen International Annual Conference, Saturday, September 18, 2010.
  • [xxi] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [xxii] A. Dean Byrd, "When a Loved One Struggles with Same-Sex Attraction," Ensign, Sep 1999, 51.
  • [xxiii] Ezra Taft Benson, Presiding Apostle November 1982, "Fundamentals of Enduring Family Relationships", Ensign, p. 59.
  • [xxiv] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [xxv] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978 and published in 1978 by "Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", popularly distributed afterward in this pamphlet form.
  • [xxvi] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [xxvii] Victor L. Brown Sr., 2nd Counselor in Presiding Bishopric, April 4, 1970, Conference Reports, April 1970, p. 31.
  • [xxviii] Elder Bruce C. Hafen, Evergreen International Annual Conference, 19 September 2009. Available at http://beta-newsroom.lds.org/article/...
  • [xxix] Elder Bruce C. Hafen, Evergreen International Annual Conference, 19 September 2009. Available at http://beta-newsroom.lds.org/article/...
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  • [xxxi] Spencer W. Kimball, Delivered April 3, 1971, "Voices of the Past, of the Present, of the Future, Ensign, June 1971, p. 16.
  • [xxxii] Spencer W. Kimball, Church President, October 4, 1974,"God Will Not Be Mocked", Ensign, Nov. 1974, p. 4.
  • [xxxiii] Boyd K. Packer, "Our Moral Environment," Ensign, May 1992, 66.
  • [xxxiv] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [xxxv] Elder Bruce C. Hafen, Evergreen International Annual Conference, 19 September 2009. Available at http://beta-newsroom.lds.org/article/...
  • [xxxvi] Office of the First Presidency, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, November 14, 1991. To: All Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Dear Brethren and Sisters: Standards of Morality and Fidelity. Available at http://institute.lds.org/manuals/eter...
  • [xxxvii] Victor L. Brown Jr., BYU Instructor, "Two Views of Sexuality", Ensign, July 1975, p. 50.
  • [xxxviii] Spencer W. Kimball, July 10, 1964, "A Counseling Problem in the Church" - BYU Devotional for LDS Seminary & Institute Instructors.
  • [xxxix] Gordon B. Hinckley, "Opposing Evil", Ensign, November 1975, p. 38.
  • [xl] Dallin H. Oaks, Apostle, October 1995, "Same-Gender Attraction", Ensign, pp. 7-8.
  • [xli] "The Abominable and Detestable Crime Against Nature: A Revised History of Homosexuality and Mormonism, 1840-1980" by Connell O'Donovan. Available at http://www.connellodonovan.com/abom.h... Quoting chapter six, "The Crime Against Nature," of The Miracle of Forgiveness by Spencer Kimball, pg. 77-78.
  • [xlii] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [xliii] J. Richard Clarke, 2nd Counselor in Presiding Bishopric, "Ministering to Needs through LDS Social Services", Ensign, May 1977, p. 85.
  • [xliv] Victor L. Brown Sr., 2nd Counselor in Presiding Bishopric "The Meaning of Morality", Ensign, June 1971, p. 55.
  • [xlv] Boyd K. Packer, "To Young Men Only," General Conference Priesthood Session, October 2, 1976.
  • [xlvi] Boyd K. Packer, Acting Presiding Apostle, October 8, 2000, "Ye Are the Temple of God", Ensign, Nov. 2000, p. 72.
  • [xlvii] Spencer W. Kimball, Church President, "The Foundations of Righteousness, Ensign, November 1977, p. 4.
  • [xlviii] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [xlix] Mark E. Petersen, Apostle, January 14, 1978, "The strong delusions", Church News, p. 16.
  • [l] Dean Byrd, October 2001, Homosexuality and the Church of Jesus Christ: Understanding Homosexuality According to the Doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Cedar Fort Press.
  • [li] Ernest L. Wilkinson, "Make Honor Your Standard", Deseret News, Church News supplement, November 13, 1965, p. 11.
  • [lii] Spencer Kimball, "Love versus Lust," 5 January 1965, later published in BYU Speeches of the Year.
  • [liii] Spencer W. Kimball, Church President, "Listen to the Prophets," Ensign, May 1978, p. 76.
  • [liv] Dallin H. Oaks, "Principles to Govern Possible Public Statement on Legislation Affecting Rights of Homosexuals," Memo proposing "general principles to guide those who prepare the text of a public statement if one is needed", 7 August 1984, http://affirmation.org/pdf/oaks_paper....
  • [lv] Dallin Oaks, Apostle, Same-Gender Attraction," Ensign, Oct. 1995, 9.
  • [lvi] Spencer Kimball, Hope for Transgressors, pamphlet published by the church in 1970.
  • [lvii] Richard G. Scott, "Making the Right Choices," Ensign, Nov 1994, 37.
  • [lviii] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
  • [lix] D. Michael Quinn, Same-Sex Dynamics among Nineteenth-Century Americans: A Mormon Example, (Urbana and Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1996) p. 417; and O'Donovan, "Abominable", p. 144- George Q. Cannon, 1897. Also available on pg. 53, The year of jubilee: A full report of the proceedings of the fiftieth annual conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, held in the large tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Utah, April 6th, 7th and 8th, A. D. 1880 ; Also a report of the exercises in the Salt Lake Assembly Hall, on the Sunday and Monday just preceding the conference, Volume 1. Also October 1897, Report of the 68th Semiannual General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 65-66.
  • By Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, George F. Gibbs, John Irvine (reporter).
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  • [lxi] A. Dean Byrd, "When a Loved One Struggles with Same-Sex Attraction," Ensign, Sep 1999, 51.
  • [lxii] Elder Boyd K. Packer, To the One, delivered at 12-stake regional conference March 5, 1978.
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A Letter To Mormons: I Don't Need Your Sympathy.
Tuesday, Apr 8, 2014, at 11:02 AM
Original Author(s): Chelsey
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
A note to all of those believing that being gay is a terrible burden (aka, the religion I was born into and raised in):

I don’t need your special sympathy. I'm not "of special concern".

“All should understand that persons (and their family members) struggling with the burden of same-sex attraction are in special need of the love and encouragement,” (Dallin H. Oaks, Ensign, Oct. 1995, 7–14)

My sexuality is not a burden, not should it be.

I am attracted to girls. I am not ashamed of it in the least.

The only reason it was a burden is because I was trained to believe that it was something to be ashamed of, hidden, and changed. I was trained to believe that acting on my attractions would demolish my future and revoke any chance of eternal happiness & salvation, not to mention the eternal happiness of my entire family (past, present, and future).

I was instilled with the fear of eternal damnation and misery if I were to even date someone of the same-sex. Time after time, the religion I was indoctrinated with since infancy, ensured a life of torment and sorrow by simply acting on my same-sex attraction. The possibility of living happily with someone I truly loved was inconceivable within the realm of Mormonism.

The religiously-backed, intolerable, cognitive red tape is what was a burden. Being brainwashed into believing that I was a heathen if ever I was to actually be myself, is what was a burden.

Being attracted to women? Not a burden.

Falling in love with a woman? Not a burden.

Getting married to a woman? Not a burden.

Being able to be myself? Not a burden.

Being raised Mormon? Burden.

Parents not accepting me? Burden.

Having to go to patriarchal church leaders and be told I had to be someone else in order to be happy? Burden.

Living with the threat of being kicked out of my college because of my sexuality? Burden.

Losing my family when coming out? Burden.

After years of struggling to recover form the militaristic, unaccepting environment I was raised in, I can finally say I am happy. I have deconstructed and rejected the destructive programming that I lived with for over 20 years.

Am I living a life of misery? Not at all.

Everyday, I am even more grateful that I am out, proud, and happy to be alive. I have found my own happiness.

Each day I wake up next to the love of my life. Each day I wake up with a smile on my face. I come home to my best friend, who I am absolutely in love with. We have a beautiful home, 2 adorable dogs, and successful careers.

You cannot tell me now that being gay is a burden. This is my life of happiness and I am finally starting to live it at the age of 23.

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  · BRIGHAM YOUNG (24)
  · BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY - SECTION 1 (25)
  · BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY - SECTION 2 (29)
  · BRUCE C. HAFEN (4)
  · BRUCE D. PORTER (1)
  · BRUCE R. MCCONKIE (10)
  · CALLINGS (11)
  · CATHOLIC CHURCH (5)
  · CHANGING DOCTRINE (14)
  · CHILDREN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1 (24)
  · CHILDREN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 2 (24)
  · CHRIS BUTTARS (1)
  · CHURCH LEADERSHIP (3)
  · CHURCH PROPAGANDA - SECTION 1 (5)
  · CHURCH PUBLISHED MAGAZINES (54)
  · CHURCH TEACHING MANUALS (10)
  · CHURCH VAULTS (4)
  · CITY CREEK CENTER (23)
  · CIVIL UNIONS (14)
  · CLEON SKOUSEN (3)
  · COGNITIVE DISSONANCE (2)
  · COMEDY - SECTION 1 (24)
  · COMEDY - SECTION 2 (21)
  · COMEDY - SECTION 3 (24)
  · COMEDY - SECTION 4 (22)
  · COMEDY - SECTION 5 (37)
  · CONCISE DICTIONARY OF MORMONISM (14)
  · D. MICHAEL QUINN (1)
  · D. TODD CHRISTOFFERSON (6)
  · DALLIN H. OAKS (103)
  · DANIEL C. PETERSON (89)
  · DANITES (4)
  · DAVID A. BEDNAR (24)
  · DAVID O. MCKAY (9)
  · DAVID R. STONE (1)
  · DAVID WHITMER (1)
  · DELBERT L. STAPLEY (1)
  · DESERET NEWS (3)
  · DIETER F. UCHTDORF (13)
  · DNA (24)
  · DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS (8)
  · DON JESSE (2)
  · ELAINE S. DALTON (5)
  · EMMA SMITH (5)
  · ENSIGN PEAK (1)
  · ERICH W. KOPISCHKE (1)
  · EX-MORMON FOUNDATION (33)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 1 (35)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 10 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 11 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 12 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 13 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 14 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 15 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 16 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 17 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 18 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 19 (26)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 2 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 20 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 21 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 22 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 23 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 24 (31)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 3 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 4 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 5 (23)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 6 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 7 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 8 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 9 (26)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 1 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 10 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 11 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 12 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 13 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 14 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 15 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 16 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 17 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 18 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 19 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 2 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 20 (24)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 21 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 22 (24)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 23 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 24 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 25 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 26 (62)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 3 (21)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 4 (22)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 5 (24)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 6 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 7 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 8 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 9 (26)
  · EXCOMMUNICATION AND COURTS OF LOVE (19)
  · EZRA TAFT BENSON (30)
  · FACIAL HAIR (6)
  · FAIR / MADD - APOLOGETICS - SECTION 1 (25)
  · FAIR / MADD - APOLOGETICS - SECTION 2 (24)
  · FAIR / MADD - APOLOGETICS - SECTION 3 (21)
  · FAITH PROMOTING RUMORS (11)
  · FARMS (30)
  · FIRST VISION (23)
  · FOOD STORAGE (3)
  · FUNDAMENTALIST LDS (17)
  · GENERAL AUTHORITIES (30)
  · GENERAL CONFERENCE (15)
  · GENERAL NEWS (5)
  · GEORGE P. LEE (1)
  · GORDON B. HINCKLEY (68)
  · GRANT PALMER (8)
  · GREGORY L. SMITH (9)
  · GUNNISON MASSACRE (1)
  · H. DAVID BURTON (2)
  · HAROLD B. LEE (1)
  · HATE MAIL I RECEIVE (23)
  · HAUNS MILL (2)
  · HBO BIG LOVE (12)
  · HEBER C. KIMBALL (4)
  · HELEN RADKEY (17)
  · HELLEN MAR KIMBALL (4)
  · HENRY B. EYRING (5)
  · HOLIDAYS (13)
  · HOME AND VISITING TEACHING (9)
  · HOWARD W. HUNTER (1)
  · HUGH NIBLEY (13)
  · HYMNS (7)
  · INTERVIEWS IN MORMONISM (18)
  · J REUBEN CLARK (1)
  · JAMES E. FAUST (7)
  · JEFF LINDSAY (6)
  · JEFFREY MELDRUM (1)
  · JEFFREY R. HOLLAND (34)
  · JEFFREY S. NIELSEN (11)
  · JOHN GEE (3)
  · JOHN L. LUND (3)
  · JOHN L. SORENSON (4)
  · JOHN TAYLOR (1)
  · JOSEPH B. WIRTHLIN (1)
  · JOSEPH F. SMITH (1)
  · JOSEPH FIELDING SMITH (8)
  · JOSEPH SITATI (1)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY - SECTION 1 (21)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY - SECTION 2 (23)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - PROPHECY (8)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - SECTION 1 (25)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - SECTION 2 (23)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - SECTION 3 (22)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - SECTION 4 (31)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - SEER STONES (7)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - WORSHIP (13)
  · JUDAISM (3)
  · JULIE B. BECK (6)
  · KEITH B. MCMULLIN (1)
  · KERRY MUHLESTEIN (9)
  · KERRY SHIRTS (6)
  · KINDERHOOK PLATES (6)
  · KIRTLAND BANK (6)
  · KIRTLAND EGYPTIAN PAPERS (17)
  · L. TOM PERRY (5)
  · LAMANITE PLACEMENT PROGRAM (3)
  · LAMANITES (37)
  · LANCE B. WICKMAN (1)
  · LARRY ECHO HAWK (1)
  · LDS CHURCH - SECTION 1 (20)
  · LDS CHURCH OFFICE BUILDING (9)
  · LDS OFFICIAL ESSAYS (26)
  · LDS SOCIAL SERVICES (3)
  · LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1 (44)
  · LORENZO SNOW (1)
  · LOUIS C. MIDGLEY (6)
  · LYNN A. MICKELSEN (2)
  · LYNN G. ROBBINS (1)
  · M. RUSSELL BALLARD (13)
  · MARK E. PETERSON (8)
  · MARK HOFFMAN (12)
  · MARLIN K. JENSEN (3)
  · MARRIOTT (2)
  · MARTIN HARRIS (5)
  · MASONS (16)
  · MELCHIZEDEK/AARONIC PRIESTHOOD (9)
  · MERRILL J. BATEMAN (3)
  · MICHAEL R. ASH (26)
  · MISSIONARIES - SECTION 1 (25)
  · MISSIONARIES - SECTION 2 (25)
  · MISSIONARIES - SECTION 3 (25)
  · MISSIONARIES - SECTION 4 (25)
  · MISSIONARIES - SECTION 5 (25)
  · MISSIONARIES - SECTION 6 (20)
  · MITT ROMNEY (71)
  · MORE GOOD FOUNDATION (4)
  · MORMON CELEBRITIES (14)
  · MORMON CHURCH HISTORY (8)
  · MORMON CHURCH PR (13)
  · MORMON CLASSES (1)
  · MORMON DOCTRINE (35)
  · MORMON FUNERALS (12)
  · MORMON GARMENTS (20)
  · MORMON HANDCARTS (12)
  · MORMON INTERPRETER (4)
  · MORMON MARRIAGE EXCLUSIONS (1)
  · MORMON MEMBERSHIP (38)
  · MORMON MONEY - SECTION 1 (25)
  · MORMON MONEY - SECTION 2 (25)
  · MORMON MONEY - SECTION 3 (24)
  · MORMON NEWSROOM (5)
  · MORMON POLITICAL ISSUES (5)
  · MORMON RACISM (18)
  · MORMON TEMPLE CEREMONIES (39)
  · MORMON TEMPLE CHANGES (15)
  · MORMON TEMPLES - SECTION 1 (25)
  · MORMON TEMPLES - SECTION 2 (25)
  · MORMON TEMPLES - SECTION 3 (24)
  · MORMON TEMPLES - SECTION 4 (42)
  · MORMON VISITOR CENTERS (10)
  · MORMON WARDS AND STAKE CENTERS (1)
  · MORMONTHINK (13)
  · MOUNTAIN MEADOWS MASSACRE (21)
  · MURPHY TRANSCRIPT (1)
  · NATALIE R. COLLINS (11)
  · NAUVOO (3)
  · NAUVOO EXPOSITOR (2)
  · NEAL A. MAXWELL - SECTION 1 (1)
  · NEAL A. MAXWELL INSTITUTE (1)
  · NEIL L. ANDERSEN - SECTION 1 (3)
  · NEW ORDER MORMON (8)
  · OBEDIENCE - PAY, PRAY, OBEY (15)
  · OBJECT LESSONS (15)
  · OLIVER COWDREY (6)
  · ORRIN HATCH (10)
  · PARLEY P. PRATT (11)
  · PATRIARCHAL BLESSING (5)
  · PAUL H. DUNN (5)
  · PBS DOCUMENTARY THE MORMONS (20)
  · PERSECUTION (9)
  · PIONEER DAY (3)
  · PLAN OF SALVATION (5)
  · POLYGAMY - SECTION 1 (22)
  · POLYGAMY - SECTION 2 (23)
  · POLYGAMY - SECTION 3 (15)
  · PRIESTHOOD BLESSINGS (1)
  · PRIESTHOOD EXECUTIVE MEETING (0)
  · PRIMARY (1)
  · PROCLAMATIONS (1)
  · PROPOSITION 8 (21)
  · PROPOSITION 8 COMMENTS (11)
  · QUENTIN L. COOK (11)
  · RELIEF SOCIETY (14)
  · RESIGNATION PROCESS (28)
  · RICHARD E. TURLEY, JR. (6)
  · RICHARD G. HINCKLEY (2)
  · RICHARD G. SCOTT (8)
  · RICHARD LYMAN BUSHMAN (11)
  · ROBERT D. HALES (5)
  · ROBERT L. MILLET (7)
  · RODNEY L. MELDRUM (15)
  · ROYAL SKOUSEN (2)
  · RUNTU'S RINCON (79)
  · RUSSELL M. NELSON (14)
  · SACRAMENT MEETING (11)
  · SALT LAKE TRIBUNE (1)
  · SCOTT D. WHITING (1)
  · SCOTT GORDON (5)
  · SEMINARY (5)
  · SERVICE AND CHARITY (24)
  · SHERI L. DEW (3)
  · SHIELDS RESEARCH - MORMON APOLOGETICS (4)
  · SIDNEY RIGDON (7)
  · SIMON SOUTHERTON (34)
  · SPAULDING MANUSCRIPT (8)
  · SPENCER W. KIMBALL (12)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 1 (18)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 10 (17)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 11 (15)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 12 (19)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 13 (21)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 14 (17)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 15 (12)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 2 (21)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 3 (18)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 4 (25)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 5 (22)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 6 (19)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 7 (15)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 8 (13)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 9 (19)
  · STORIES - SECTION 1 (1)
  · SUNSTONE FOUNDATION (2)
  · SURVEILLANCE (SCMC) (12)
  · TAD R. CALLISTER (4)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 1 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 2 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 3 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 4 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 5 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 6 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 7 (9)
  · TALKS - SECTION 1 (1)
  · TEMPLE WEDDINGS (6)
  · TEMPLES - NAMES (1)
  · TERRYL GIVENS (1)
  · THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE (1)
  · THE SINGLE WARDS (5)
  · THE WORLD TABLE (3)
  · THOMAS PHILLIPS (26)
  · THOMAS S. MONSON (33)
  · TIME (4)
  · TITHING - SECTION 1 (25)
  · TITHING - SECTION 2 (25)
  · TITHING - SECTION 3 (22)
  · UGO PEREGO (5)
  · UK COURTS (7)
  · UNNANOUNCED, UNINVITED AND UNWELCOME (36)
  · UTAH LIGHTHOUSE MINISTRY (3)
  · VALERIE HUDSON (3)
  · VAN HALE (16)
  · VAUGHN J. FEATHERSTONE (1)
  · VIDEOS (30)
  · WARD CLEANING (4)
  · WARREN SNOW (1)
  · WELFARE - SECTION 1 (0)
  · WENDY L. WATSON (7)
  · WHITE AND DELIGHTSOME (11)
  · WILFORD WOODRUFF (6)
  · WILLIAM HAMBLIN (12)
  · WILLIAM LAW (1)
  · WILLIAM SCHRYVER (5)
  · WILLIAM WINES PHELPS (3)
  · WOMEN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1 (24)
  · WOMEN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 2 (25)
  · WOMEN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 3 (37)
  · WORD OF WISDOM (7)
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